Wait for 20/21 or get 19 at discount...

Sorry man but personally I refuse to support GM simply for the way they treat their workers by moving factories to Mexico, their lack of quality has lots to do with it as well. There’s just no comparing them to Toyota!

 

Why are there so many on here complaining about the Tundras mpg? Not sure what you all are used to driving but I came from an HD 2500 gas guzzler getting 12mpg. I am averaging 17-18 mpg....keep your foot off the gas pedal and you too can get great gas mileage for a full size truck!

 

Agreed x2! Meanwhile Toyota just announced more investment in the US, way to go! Gm wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for our tax dollars bailing them out and then they move factories outside the US....lame.

 

Ha! Well said.

 

What’s wrong with two engine options? By adding more they’d run the risk of them being less reliable, that’s not their brand. I don’t think it’s idealistic to have a gas v6 in a full-size pick up, just my personal option. I think the “lack” of tech actually draws interest to the Tundra crowd. If you took a survey of Tundra owners, you could probably draw the conclusion that these buyers want simple and reliable. Tech really isn’t a priority.

 

I just read a few articles from the end of 2018 about GM closing five plants. Continuing to buy GM vehicles only supports this behavior.

They say Trump’s tariffs on sheet metal will cost them X in millions, but they’ll save over a billion this year on his tax reform.

We should’ve let them go under. They produce a crappy product and aren’t even willing to save American jobs after we saved their ass 12.1 billion times.

 

I agree...I can touch 20.5 mpg on the highway (kept at or under 65 mph). City / combination driving I get 16-17 if it's above 25 degrees, or 14-15 in the winter. I tow a 28' RV trailer (7500 lbs loaded) and get 9.0 to 9.5mpg)...

 

I certainly agree with you, keeping it simple would be best. I don't think the 4.6L V8 however is an option that many outside of fleet vehicles and contractors that is desired or wanted. That's not to say that there aren't those that opted for the 4.6L V8 but I'd say that's a very small minority. That engine doesn't offer enough of a MPG benefit to be a viable alternative to the 5.7L V8 for most enthusiasts. I'd like to see them tweak the current 5.7L V8 and eek out a few more mpgs out of it and offer another alternative such as a V6TT or a V8 hybrid. I know that is not a popular opinion but they do need to have at least one other viable option besides the 5.7L V8 because the 4.6L V8 is not it. Personally I'd get a 5.7L V8 if they could just tweak it a little.

 

The 4.6 is definitely not the prom queen. More mpg's is a terrible thing said no one ever, so i would be okay if they were able to get more out of it. My uneducated "motor brain" tells me to be skeptical of that kind of tweaking because of fear in loss of reliability. How much is 2-3 more miles per gallon gonna cost you at the end of the month? Say they bump the ratings to 17-20 mpgs. If you do a 500 mile road trip with today's average cost of California gas of $3.26/gallon. Current 5.7 is rated for 17 highway, so 500/17 = 29.4 gallons X $3.26 = $95.8. Potentially new 5.7 gets 20, so 500/20 = 25 gallon X $3.26 = $81.5. Net savings is $14.30. Give or take $14 isn't worth them messing with how the motor operates and the reliability it's known for, at least to me.

 

I never like to buy the first year or two of any new model. Not even in a Toyota! There are always kinks that need to be taken care of in the first year or two. However, the decision will have to be yours to make. No matter which route you choose to take, you can’t go wrong with a Tundra.

I actually bought my 17 Pro in November of 2017 at a significant discount. I knew that the newer 2019 Pro would have some better updates. But, it didn’t matter to me because the price was unbeatable and it is a great truck. I’m very happy with my purchase and most of all, with my truck.

 

Well the reality is is that Toyota is going to either have to tweak the engine to be more competitive or completely move over to something that people don't want like a V6TT or V8 hybrid. They won't be keeping the exact same powertrain in the next gen Tundra so I think its pretty much safe to say the next gen Tundra will have a different or updated powertrain in one form or the other. So TBH I'd rather them tweak it rather than move on to something more complicated. I honestly look at it differently than you. More from a miles per tank than a cost POV. I do a lot of road trips and lets say they can get an extra 2-3 mpg highway. On a 38 gallon tank that can be an extra 76-114 miles I can go before filling up the tank. On long road trips that makes a big difference to me and if I can pay a little less per tank then that's even better.

 

My 2019 was a decent price. Coming from Ford, the cost for a Tundra is an amazing price for the amount of truck you get. 2019 TRD OR has been amazing. I, like all of you, would like to buy used, but when I know I am going to have a truck for a long time and a two year old truck is almost the same price, might as well just buy new... Hope this may help for whatever it is worth.

 

I have decided to purchase new as well, I missed out on the 2016 I was looking at but I’m taking it as a sign. Come on Red Tag Sale!!!

...By the way, GM also closed a plant here in Ontario leaving many people jobless and lots of our tax money in Mexico

 

I remember reading a quote in a business journal somewhere and it said something to the effect of, “ As a customer, you can fire everyone at a company up to the CEO and owner simply by taking your business elsewhere.” Some how that’s always stuck with me.

 

GM just added 300 mil to the US though

 

But I am going tomorrow to make my final decision. A 2019 Chevy Silverado Trail Boss and a Voodoo Blue 2019 Trd Pro. Mixing in with a Tacoma Trd Pro, but I doubt I'll fit in that because I'm 6'4"

 

I’m 6’0 and I have a 2018 Tacoma trd off-road with premium and tech package. I can feel my hair touch the headliner sometimes. The reason I joined site was to consider trading in for a tundra. I don’t tow and I use bed for occasional big box store. It’s not that I need more tow or haul capabilities it’s that the headroom is starting to get to me. I owe about 33k for my taco and it’s just hard to swallow getting a 19 tundra platinum for 46k. That’s 13k for some extra space. And I’d be going backwards on infotainment screen and push to start.

 

Just added 300 million what?

 

If you don’t need extra tow or payload capabilities, see how tricked out you can get a 4.6. It’ll be cheaper than a 5.7l but I’m not sure you can get into the higher trims with the smaller V8.

 

Well, that's a no brainer!!! Make sure you come back and post some pics of your TRD Pro.

 

Only the TRD pros will get the push start across the board....if that's what you meant. The Tundra, Tacoma and 4Runner will get the 8 inch and Sequoia will be the 7 inch screen.

 

I'm 6'4 too. The Tundra has never left me wanting more room, even in the backseat when leaving the bar

 

That's why I bought mine!!
My '04 went 14 years with the only issue being an alternator replacement at 200,000 miles. Only reason I got rid of it was that I wanted something shiny and new. Plus I wanted to start beefing up for offroad adventures and the thought of dropping $10K on a truck that was only worth $6k seemed like a fools errand. So... Hello 2018 Cement!!

 

I test drove the new GMC Sierra AT4 and it has a ton of features too, BUT they focused so much on tech they forgot to put cushion in the ugly seats. Uncomfortable for $60K sticker.

I opt’d for a 2019 Platinum CM in MGM ... paid about $45K before my trade equity brought me down to $37K out the door.

 

I agree, my #1 priority is "reliability" as mine is used as a tow vehicle. I can't be broken down 100's or 1000's of mile from home. I was reading some of the forums on the new Ram's, and just worry about some of the issues popping up including the tranny getting stuck in 1st gear.

 

EPA ratings on Fords and GMs are over done especially Fords. Every time I mention Tundra on the Texas Fishing Forum the Ford dudes all jump in with negative comments about MPGs. I just say if that is that all you can come up with?

 

You should just respond with a link to fuelly for both trucks.

 

When I bought my Tundra in 2014, I knew going in the fuel mileage was so so. But I also knew half it's miles were going to be for towing my RV. It's really how aggressive one drives. Be aggressive expect 12 mpg city, take it easy 15-16. Highway at 65 mph you can get low 20's (20.5 - 21). Pound it out at 80...I bet you drop to 17-18...

I have a close buddy that pulls a RV about my size and weight (7500-8000 lbs.) with a eco-boost. He get 6.5 to 8 mpg, I get 9 to 9.5... I do not know how he drives to be fair. Try going to Alaska and back (14k miles) When you start to pay $3.50 to $4.50 a gallon, You will "learn" to take it easy...

 

The other trucks get those mpg's when they are driven like a car, hook up a trailer, load the bed and mash the throttle to hear that v8 sing and see where they end up. My Tundra does the same or better depending on the circumstance then my 2014 Silverado I had before this truck.

 

My old RV trailer was 5500 lbs fully loaded, the new one 7800-8000 lbs fully loaded. I do know I'm pulling something now...But even pulling onto the freeway, she has plenty of throttle to get up to speed.

Last falls trip up into New Brunswick Canada's Fundy National Park ( Bay of Fundy) the last hill down into the park you drop 1500' elevation over 2-3 miles, the last 3/4 mile with mild "S" turns. Man, I got to go up this hill after leaving this area. The problem there is only about a 200' level spot after pulling out of the campground till you hit grade. No problem, never over 3/4 throttle about 45 mph.