Drop bracket mid travel

3.0s with bypasses in the front are overkill. Change my mind

 

Change your mind

 

Rather have overkill than not enough.

 

2.5 is definitely enough.

 

i have close to 13k on mine. no noise either.

 

2.5’s here, almost 30,000 no problems on the blue shocks

 

All brands make noise. Fox has a taper seat which makes it quieter. King Prerunner series have a plastic cup on the valve to quiet them down, but they usually break apart and make the valve stick or send plastic into the oil which is why I have always ordered them with the better check valves. I have built trucks with Fox, King, ADS, FOA, etc. They all make noise with the bypasses. Its a valve opening and closing, some are more prevelant than others.

ADS uses a hardened 17-4 stainless check valve in all their bypass shocks, so the same quality in their 5.25" Trophy Truck Bypass is used in the 2.5" Bolt in bypasses.

These heavy trucks like 3.0s, I have one customer with 2.5" coilovers and 3.0 bypasses and he could benefit from more shock. We have double stacks on .020 shim in the 3.0 bypass up front. He also charges the whoops at Oldsmobile in Glamis pretty hard and drives the piss out of the truck.

 

I wish I had gone 3.0 bypasses up front. Running a flutter stack on the coils and 20 stack on the bypasses and feel I am on the edge of needing more shock up front. The rear definitely needs 3.0 IMO unless you run unloaded 100% of the time.

My King bypasses make noise but not as loud as the ADS bypasses.

 

This right here. We’re not running Tacoma’s. Weight is a big consideration, especially for those of us who run around loaded with camping gear all the time. Some will say you only need 3.0 for those long whoop runs where the oil gets heated up because of the repeated cycles. But let me ask...

If you were going to jump your truck just one time, would you rather have 2” diameter shocks or 2.5”?

Same applies to 2.5” vs 3.0 in my opinion.

 

no you're wrong......

but ill say this, maybe in the future need to upgrade my front bypass, but at this point never had a need, now i did have to beef up my coilover, but there is some limitations of space on the front end. I went 3.0 in the rear and almost went 3.5 but couldnt justify cost and some other things.. so

 

yeah we do! its just for fun, 99% of the time we actually agree, plus we know each other very well and like bustin balls for no reason.

 

We never argue!

Pic of Bruce’s ass for posterity.

 

I’m not sure why you posted it but I’m ok w it! Lol was that when I shook my electrical connections loose in the whoops... I don’t remember??

 

@KevinK was waiting for you to shake something else.

 

I really question this simply from the angle it was taken. Also seen @KevinK photoshop ninja abilities. I would reverse search that image just to be safe...

 

I disrespectfully disagree

 

Yeah whatever. I

This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. On fox's, the shaft size is the same for 2.5 and 3.0, also I think 3.5 is the same but I would have to check. they are all the same strength. The extra diameter is for handling a higher heat load.

I jump The Truck all the time and I have 2.5 all around.

Now, you get more dampening per shim for the larger diameter shocks, thats true. But you can still dampen a 8k lbs truck with 2.5's, you just have to have the right stacks and use low flow pistons. Oh wait, nobody offers low flow pistons except fox...

My front shocks never get hot, not even in 100 degree desert heat and running 3' whoops for hours. They don't even get above 150 degrees. I did finally manage to get my rear shocks hot after I redid the leafs because now I am using the full stroke. But they got no where near 400 degrees, more like 200 degrees. and in order to get them that hot I had to run a truck that weighs 8k lbs over 3' whoops for over an hour

Ya'll can waste money on large diameter shocks and add unnecessary weight to your truck all you want. Somebody has to support off road businesses to keep the prices down for guys like me

 

you sir are absolutely correct, one additional point of info while fox uses the same shaft size on 2.5 and 3.0 king does not, that was one of the reasons i went with the 3.0. other than that i can attest to everything said here... alex runs hard AF and still no issues.

 

Boom. Roasted @KevinK

 

Don't 100% quote me but I believe ADS has threaded bleed holes (probably can completely block them off as well I could only imagine) to tune as you please. plenty of other people know much more than I, just sharing what I see and read.

 

idk exactly what point they are making here, but on my kings i was able to have bleed holes tuned, they all have that option. ADS isnt very different from Fox and King.

 

Low flow pistons, stainless shafts, and when that shaft velocity gets a little over board....

 

hmmmmm..... guess it happens to all brands....

 

2 completely different issues. His was an assembly error where the stud didn't get loctite and loosened up. His shock was also fixed free of charge...

 

The bleed holes are in the pistons. Most brands have them, some are threaded for set screws to block off, others are open holes and need to be tapped to block them off. The bleed holes are more for a shock without bypasses. Having them open on a bypass just deteriorates the bump zone performance.

 

Yeah and dragos had to wait like 6 months for the free replacement

maybe so, but the point is catastrophic failure can happen for lots of reasons in lots of different situations. Ive seen Kings fail, ads, fox, Bilstein, toyotec, icons and the like for a variety of reasons.... arguing semantics serves no purpose. They are all good companies, they all make great stuff, applications and cost are what drives each of their markets.

Side note @n2deep hows your ADS shock repair/replacement coming, been almost a year for the replacement right...

 

Didn't you read what I said? The shaft size is the same on 3.0. If my 2.5 is over damped, the 3.0 will be too

But I'm not over damped. I've run my shocks hard and I've taken monster hits. My 2.5s are holding up just fine[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

 

I'll let the experts get back to answering questions. They know alot more than I do anyways. I'll stick with my clickety clack shocks on my truck with the king shocks on my legs and fox shocks on my turbo golf cart.

 

Yeah in Anza when the battery got the strap.

You’ve put a lot of time and energy into tuning those 2.5 to your specific application. Including changing out the pistons and a few valve changes. So, yeah, it’s possible to damp a tundra with 2.5, but would it be easier to do for most people with 3.0? I think so. You’ve put in a lot of legwork that many of us have leveraged in our builds, but I think tuning 2.5s in our application is equal parts art form, dedication, and science.

I’m fireproof. That’s what happens when you’re Satan’s spawn.

 

LOL