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2018 JBL Premium Sound Upgrade

Discussion in 'Audio & Video' started by 71_340, Nov 14, 2017.

  1. Nov 24, 2017 at 4:46 PM
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    You spent some serious money, probably plenty good to enter contests and to rattle your teeth.
     
  2. Nov 24, 2017 at 5:03 PM
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    smooosh This place costs me too much $

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    Not competition level but if I was going to redo everything I figured I should make it good.
     
  3. Nov 24, 2017 at 6:32 PM
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    So, since I started this thread 10 days ago I have been listening to fellow forum members, did more internet research than I really cared for and contacted several suppliers. I also had to keep my budget in mind or what I am willing to spend to improve my current system. I just want nice clear sound, subs I can actually hear and feel and the ability to at times listen to the music louder then what the current system allows.

    Today being Black Friday seemed like the best day to make a purchase so I finally pulled the trigger:

    Two sets of Hertz 6.5 component speaker sets (front/rear doors)
    Two Hertz 12" sub woofers
    Custom build sub enclosure (behind rear seat)
    JBL Club 5-channel amplifier
    JL Audio Fix 86 and DRC 200
    Amp mounting rack, all wiring, adapters and hardware

    I can keep my head unit and don't have to cut/splice any OEM wiring or plugs (except for the tweeters in the rear doors). Once I get all the stuff I just have to find the time to install everything.
     
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  4. Nov 24, 2017 at 6:56 PM
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    Seems like everyone is upgrading! I just couldn’t keep the factory head unit...that thing sucks.....went with a kenwood nav unit with the maestro module to keep all the steering wheel controls and factory deck options.
     
  5. Nov 24, 2017 at 7:36 PM
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    What hertz did you get for the doors.
     
  6. Nov 24, 2017 at 7:41 PM
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    Hertz DSK165.3 with separate tweeters, a step below yours.
     
  7. Nov 24, 2017 at 7:45 PM
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    Well, looks like you upgraded too. What did you do about the JBL amp and speakers or didn't your truck come with JBL stereo?
     
  8. Nov 24, 2017 at 7:47 PM
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    They are nice speakers. I was listening to a bunch at my price point and they where the best I thought.

    You doing your install? I’ve installed stereos before but I think I’m going to have this one done. Setting the processor is seems like it’s best set up by someone with all the right tools.
     
  9. Nov 24, 2017 at 7:48 PM
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    If you get rid of the head unit you don’t have to worry about normalizing anything.
     
  10. Nov 24, 2017 at 7:49 PM
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    He posted in his own thread. He replaced everything.
     
  11. Nov 24, 2017 at 8:03 PM
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    Will be upgrading the entire system...That stock stereo is a complete joke
     
  12. Nov 24, 2017 at 8:09 PM
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    I will install it myself. Installing speakers, running wiring, mounting am and sub woofer should be straight forward. I asked about the signal JL Audio Fix 86 and it comes with tuning CD. There are videos that show how to do it using a multi meter.

    To get everything installed would probably run 500.00 or better because you basically have to take most of the interior apart. Doing it yourself you also know that there are no shortcuts taken running all the wiring neat and properly. I am pretty anal about that kind of stuff, I also don't want any smudges or finger prints all over my truck.
     
  13. Nov 24, 2017 at 9:19 PM
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    I am old too and usually don't listen to real loud music, problem with the JBL stock stereo is that it sounds like crap when played at a normal level; it just sounds flat and shallow. I was going just the speaker and amplified sub woofer at first but decided to a few hundred more and get everything new past the head unit which I like and want to keep.

    Hopefully what I bought will fit the bill.
     
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  14. Nov 25, 2017 at 5:00 AM
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    That's the reason I drink Natural Light.....cheap. That way I can buy goodies for my tyruck.
     
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  15. Nov 25, 2017 at 6:31 AM
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    Do you already have a processor like the JBL fix? if not you need one of those also or you will just be amplifying the bad signal
     
  16. Nov 30, 2017 at 4:02 PM
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    I got my reply from Toyota...take it to the dealer to check for problem. It should not be a big difference in sound from the 2013 system that I had. As I described it to my dealer...it seems that the rear speakers are not getting enough power. We'll see what they say next Tuesday.
     
  17. Nov 30, 2017 at 5:25 PM
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    Mine was checked and everything was in good working order, they all sound like crap. A couple days ago I received a phone call from the same lady (Toyota Corporate HQ) who replied to my email, she wanted to follow up with me. I told her what I had stated in my email and what the dealer told me. She said that were no software upgrades or any TSBs out or being developed because there really aren't any complaints they know about. Anyway, she was nice and polite so I bit my tongue and was also nice.

    I just fix mine on my own dime. I changed my mind on that stuff in post # 69 and cancelled the order, I thought about it some more and decided that I really didn't need a super loud system and I don't want to perform a major surgery on my new truck. I opted with my first choice and ordered the JBL Enhancement from OEM+ Audio, they have a 7-day lead-time and my order should ship sometime next week.
     
  18. Nov 30, 2017 at 5:54 PM
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    You can always turn a loud stereo down.........

    I'll be interested to hear what your thoughts are on the oem+. Interesting that its just tweeters an amp/processor and a sub. I guess they have confidence in the other door speakers.
     
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    It also includes different cross overs for the front door woofers to take some of the bass out and an adjustment knob for the sub-woofer. From what I understand the JBL door speakers are better then the standard version but suffer from to much bass. Also their tweeters come in at 1500 hz.

    I am hoping for the best, it sure wasn't cheap. But there really are no cheap options for the JBL stereo.
     
  20. Nov 30, 2017 at 8:22 PM
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    Are the crossover the "Acoustic Correction Filters (Plug-and-Play)" Are they installed at the door or at the wiring harness under the front passenger seat?

    Take LOTS of picture.
     
  21. Dec 1, 2017 at 3:54 AM
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    Yes, the crossovers are those filters. Daniel from OEM+ did send me an updated photo (can't find it anymore) of the whole kit and it shows the filters. They look like they plug in between the door harness and the door woofer which would make sense to me.

    I will take photos when I install the upgrade. I am going to have a busy day when I tackle it because I also ordered a tailgate Pop & Lock and the Toyota LED lighting kit for the bed; makes sense to install everything in one setting because I have to remove a lot of trim pieces for either job. I think after all that is done the only thing left is remote start, I am leaning towards the EVO 1 but want to wait and see what Toyota comes up with, if it is like the 2017 and below remote start they can keep it (I don't like for the engine to shut off when you open the door).
     
  22. Dec 5, 2017 at 8:18 AM
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    Don't forget to let everybody know what the outcome was. Hopefully you have more luck then I did.
     
  23. Dec 5, 2017 at 11:07 AM
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    It's at the dealer now...waiting for a call!
     
  24. Dec 5, 2017 at 12:14 PM
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    Same answer..."working as designed". Had I not had the spectacular system in my '13 CM Limited, I probably would have not said anything. I guess I'll deal with it...a new system is not in the budget.
     
  25. Dec 5, 2017 at 12:22 PM
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    Complain to Toyota directly like I did. If they get enough of us complaining about it they may just do something. I don't think it would be hard to fix. I am pretty sure the hardware is decent and where they messed up is in the software controlling the amp and in turn the sub. I am not an engineer but a software or firmware upgrade would probably turn it in to a "Premium" system.

    I think everybody who has the JBL system should complain to Toyota (that is unless you are satisfied with the sound as is).
     
  26. Dec 6, 2017 at 7:37 PM
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    My 2016 platinum sound system is great. The sub behind the rear seat works and it is obvious. If anything, I turn the bass down.

    Sounds to me that many of you have systems that have broken components or were wired up wrong.
     
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    My '13 rattled the windows in the car next to me at a light! My '18 seems like there is very little power going to the rear. I had it checked by the dealer..."no problems; functioning as designed". I'm betting there's a glitch that Toyota hasn't caught yet.
     
  28. Dec 7, 2017 at 3:58 AM
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    By the time Toyota finds the glitch (if there is one) and IF they do find a fix it will be to late for me because I will have it fixed on my own dime.
     
  29. Dec 9, 2017 at 1:09 PM
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    For those of you that have kept your factory head units, and installed sound processors & new amps. Have you found that you get more volume out of your system? One of my biggest complaints with the JBL premium is the lack of volume. When listening through my phone, I often turn it almost to max volume, and it doesn't seem that loud.
     
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    Make sure that the volume on your phone is turned up all the way. You also have to adjust the sound separately for each source.
     

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