Tundra engine recall - interesting news

that is correct, both say they had the recall motor installed. Those would be the long blocks. However one says his truck has been to the dealer 6 times with no issue found and the other while possibly a motor issues has not been confirmed. Could have been something simply wasn't plug it properly.

 

Toyota’s Official Response to the Tundra V35A Engine Class Action
Toyota has publicly addressed the April 2025 class action filed by three Tundra owners over alleged V35A engine defects. Their key points are:


1. Recall Remedy in Place

• In May 2024, Toyota issued a safety recall covering certain 2022–2023 Tundra and Lexus LX600 vehicles equipped with the affected V35A engines.
  
  
• As part of that recall, Toyota will replace any engine confirmed to contain residual assembly debris at no cost to owners.
  

2. Scope of Affected Models

• Toyota emphasizes the defect is limited to a specific batch of V35A engines in non-hybrid 2022–2023 Tundras and LX600s.
  
  
• They state that neither 2024 Tundra models nor any Tundra Hybrid trucks use the problematic bearings and thus fall outside the recall.
  

3. Separate Transmission Issue Mischaracterized

• The lawsuit cites “throttle lag” and “jolting” complaints that Toyota says stem from a transmission control module calibration, not the engine itself.
  
  
• In December 2022, Toyota issued Technical Service Bulletin T-SB-0111-22 to reprogram affected transmission control modules and resolve acceleration hesitation.
  

4. Adequacy of the Recall Remedy

• Toyota contends its free engine replacement for confirmed debris failures fully addresses the plaintiffs’ safety concerns.
  
  
• They argue the class action conflates two distinct issues (engine bearing debris vs. transmission-related lag) and that their existing recall program is sufficient.

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Toyota Tundra Engine Lawsuit Says Recall Failed | CarComplaints.com
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They state that neither 2024 Tundra models nor any Tundra Hybrid trucks use the problematic bearings and thus fall outside the recall

lol

 

I thought from the beginning they messed up that lawsuit talking about throttle lag from the engine failure

swing and a miss there plantiff lawyers.

 

ya right, lol.

this could leave the door open

but this is all bullshit, lawyers get paid, nothing else happens

 

At least Toyota already called it a manufacturing defect. So that can pull the old GM dodge to every class action suit that it's warranty only covers manufacturing defects not design defects. And it's just coincidence that 100% of defects they get sued for are design defects

 

Agreed.

 

toyota has a lawyer or two, lol.

that's why my OEM floor mats are 6 miles away from the pedal, HA

 

No. The yellow highlighted failures on the spreadsheet are short blocks. The dates of failure are long before long block replacements began.

 

I would be really interested in seeing a confirmed replacement engine failure. Everything that has been posted on here is just preliminary and the ones that have reported back were all related to disconnected electrical systems if memory serves.

Edit: CONFIRMED LONG BLOCK REPLACEMENT! Before people start referencing short block replacement failures because I was unclear!

 

ya, we haven't seen a verified bearing failure on the long blocks from what Ive seen so I think your correct.

IMO there is just no way they are going to do all these short and long blocks and not have problems on some of them from the install, thats complex major repair done by humans, shit will happen.

 

Toyota claims hybrids still have motive power when the gas engine fails from the "debris" issue, therefore they aren't included on the recall. Numerous reports claim they don't have motive power when the gas engine fails.

Toyota claims the "manufacturing defect" that caused the excessive debris was resolved for engines built after the recall period. Yet, the non-recalled engines continue to fail from the same issue, including late '24 build dates.

Toyota blamed the bearing failures were due to excessive manufacturing debris. But, if the "Official Response" to the class action lawsuit above is legit, they now claim the bearings are faulty. Which is it, Toyota?

Does anyone believe anything from Toyota on this issue, anymore?

 

not really, and it doesn't matter either

all that matters is the new trucks stop blowing up and they fix the problem, after that, I don't give a red rats ass about the explanation.

 

Personally I don't think that's "all that matters". There are almost 2-1/2 years worth of Tundras on the road that aren't covered under the recall, but are still blowing up. Add to that the hybrids that were built within the recall period that aren't covered and are still blowing up.

I haven't looked at the sales numbers lately, but that's at least 200K trucks that are susceptible to blowing up that aren't covered under the recall, and will only get short blocks if they do blow up.

I also would like to see Toyota fix the damn problem, whatever it truly is, but I DO give a rat's ass about how Toyota treats me and others who have potentially ticking time bombs that are not covered under the recall.

 

fair enough Matt, but to be clear I was not talking about action like fixing the trucks out now or the ones going forward and treatment of customers.

I was purely saying IDGAF about explanations, those are worthless, we need action.

 

I disagree with you guys on this. Because you can't verify that "failures stop happening" until way into the future when they would have had a chance to fail. It is lagging data. A detailed and credible explanation by Toyota would go a long way to relieving uncertainty.

 

You're certainly entitled to your opinion.

I think honest explanations would go a long way in re-establishing Toyota's credibility and the faith their customers have in them. After seeing how they've handled this situation, I can honestly say I wouldn't buy another Tundra, if I was in the market for a new truck right now.

And yes, I know the other 1/2 ton pickup alternatives aren't any better. If I was younger and had more energy, I'd consider resto-moding a classic old Ford with a modern drivetrain, suspension, and electronics. Something like they build on the Bitchin' Rides TV show. A rig that I could dictate every nut and bolt that went into it.

 

A very valid point. I wish it was illegal for companies to withhold information like what we are seeing from Toyota on this particular issue. Be honest and upfront with your customers, they may not like what you have to say, but at least you can say we are transparent on the issue

 

I see now. Missed the key at the bottom. The thing is though, no dates of failures are listed that I could find, nor if it was a long block repplacement. It could've been a short block failure? I think the sheet needs more data before we can say for sure the 2nd failures are long blocks. Does that data exist?

Edit: didn't see the above replies before posting this. reading those now.
2nd Edit: Reading the NHTSA complaints posted, it does look like one possible long block failure. First one reads like a possible "things weren't re-attached fully" scenario. 2nd one could be a complete failure. @FrankG did you have confirmation it was a bearing failure?

 

Just looked at a couple of Carfaxs on some early '22s listed for sale with 1 open recall (backup lights) and nowhere in the history are the other recalls listed or completed?

 

What a mess. This entire 3rd gen has been a disaster right from the start.

Do you folks feel confident that Toyota will have solved the problems in your trucks after getting them back from the shop?

Or do you anticipate major issues again in the next 20k or so miles?

 

Hybrids?

 

Wait, so it's bearings now being 'problematic' ? I thought it was machining debris?

 

No, I was looking for the cheapest ones nationwide in SR5 trim. There is a '22 SR listed for $16K that has all recalls open.

 

I was saying I wanted to know if there was any confirmed replacement failures because to the best of my recollection, I have only seen initial issues that MIGHT be a failure.

 

Ah, I re-read your edit again and get what you’re saying now. I took it initially as you confirmed it was a long block failure, but I see now you were clarifying your earlier statement.

 

O, we agree, Im just going under the assumption that will never happen so why even think about it, I guess just being a realist for a moment.

if they have some epiphany and say, 100% transparency, here is the deal, then fine, Im all ears.

 

Even if by some happenstance that did occur, how many people do you think will believe it?

 

no, thats why I said what I said, lol.

but we all know the speculation train will continue to roll forward, I simply don't think there is a realistic chance of that stopping.

 

So, I guess we should all be resigned to the fact that this period in history will always be remembered as "the time when abnormally high numbers of Toyota engines were blowing up, and nobody knows why."

Cool.