Long tube headers for Tundra.....yes or no

I am close to pulling the trigger on a Dirty Deeds exhaust set up for the TRD Pro. On the fence about going full send and making a move on long tube headers as well.

Any of y'all done the TRD replacement exhaust?

How bout headers on a Tundra? Pros? Cons?

Does the truck start throwing codes? Will you need to take it to a tuner to dyno/tune it for either.....just the exhaust or actual long tubes?

Tha is for any info y'all can provide.

Live in a neighborhood. Already have my go fast toy. Will tow my approx 6000 pound travel trailer a bit more the closer I get to retirement.

I did buy the extended Toyota warranty which I am guessing the headers may violate. Thanks again for feedback.

 

These are questions that you really need to discuss with Keith @dirtydeeds.

 

I have Stainless Works long tubes, had custom mid pipes made with OE cats and modified factory TRD cat back with x pipes.

Pros:
- power, you can feel the power
- MPG, it actually improved fuel consumption by quite a bit, with re-gearing and 35s, I'm often in 16mpg in hand calculated all around driving.

Cons:
- Costs and time, I did the headers install myself, took lot longer than I thought, took me 2 full days.
- if you don't re-use factory cats, on newer trucks it'll throw a code, I used the cats that came with the kit, I could not avoid the CEL no matter what foulers I used, and with aftermarket cats the truck is loud, like NASCAR level loud.

After all I had done, it sounds like newer stock AMG V8s, I love it, if you are going with headers, make sure do the custom mid pipes that Keith offers.

 

I went with ARH LT's here, took me solo 6hrs to install.

No tuner is needed although some have mentioned it is I confirmed safe AFRs on factory tune but you will get the most out of them with a tune.

If you do LTs follow through with full 3in out back. I originally had the header collector neck down to 2.5 at midpipe then exiting out the back at 2.5. After welding a 3in flange to midpipe followed by dual 3in out back the difference was night and day. The Torque gain was felt for sure.

I had a CEL with the supplied ARH Cats alone then tried a generic defouler which didn't cure it. I went with Vibrant J bend defouler and stepped down to the medium insert and never saw a CEL since.

The largest concern was noise level increase. It sounds crazy if you don't address the exhaust further. Even the quiet TRD exhaust would become unbearable so would advise custom or Deeds recommendation. I ended up at 3in X-Pipe with dual 18in Borla XR's (3in) and dual 3in Vibrant UQ resonators at tailpipes with 2 Helmz rez in-between and totally happy.

In the end I thought it was worth it especially for NA focused goals like myself. Don't forget if you have plans to SC later than skip LTs because they don't gain additional power according to many who have tried.

 

We can work with your existing system to make it way less nascar loud. 760-877-4234

 

I can make the sound level as loud or as quiet as you want

 

Have you ever done cut-outs......if so, how did it sound? I would never do it, but always been curious.

 

Hello,

It would be best to talk to Keith about pricing and options. He is out of the office most days, but is always available via phone. You can call or text him anytime at 760-877-4234. He does take many calls and texts a day, but is very good at getting back to everyone. Unfortunately, emails are just last to be responded to. Thank you for understanding.

Thanks, Shawna

 

We are running a Group Buy on JBA Headers. Only a few sets left and this pricing will be gone.

 

Do you use a tune or higher octane gas?

 

Tuning option wasn't available then for 2020+ trucks, so I just drove around as it was with octane 87 until I got the supercharger.

 

Darn it, now I want headers...again.

 

Do it.................. this time, the wife is at the helm

https://youtube.com/shorts/u-pLJihr1v0?feature=share

 

So any updates on this?

 

JBA discontinued all long tubes for trucks.

we already are re-making long tubes for first gen tundras. We will be re-making JBA for second gen too call for details. 760-877-4234.

 

Thank you for the update!

 

Tuning in.

 

Dammit!!!
Talked to my installer of the Magnuson about getting headers installed as well as a Catback that I already have sitting in my entryway.
He wouldnt do it.
Not sure why,the only thing I can think of is he uses a canned tune from Magnuson and doesnt know how to tune with extra engine mods.
It Sucks...looks like I'm going to have to find someone else to do my tune once everything is said and done.

 

And I'll be waiting for the JBA styled ones. Still doing the single airtube off one primary?
I'd take a set with no airtubes.
And if you need a test subject.

 

There’s no benefit to long tubes when supercharged anyways. Give a call for further explanation. 760-877-4234. Keith

 

But we like saying we got long tubes installed!

 

So besides a super charger, what mods can I do that will wake up my 5.7?
I don't believe that an aftermarket CAI does anything other than makes the air flow louder. So I will keep the stock CAI that it came with.
My question I'm sure has been asked a million times on this forum but I honestly don't like wading through pages and pages of comments.
And I'm certainly not against a blower. I'd LOVE to have one but that's a big chunk of money I don't have right now. So in the meantime, what mods can I do or have done that will add HP/TQ. A chip and tune?
The whole peddle commander/whatever thing you plug in isn't what I'm wanting. From what I understand about those is that they just keep the transmission kicked down to the passing gear.
Anyway.....long post. Sorry. I'm killing time before the gym. ️‍♂️

 

Sub’d

 

Interesting.
What about standard headers?

 

The stock manifold are considered "shorties" and are better than most oem manifolds.
Some of us got long tunes before the SC in our chase for HP. The stock exhaust keeps a lot of the low end torque where long tube and bigger exhaust robs it.

 

Wait....OEM is factory headers.
I'm a bit confused here.
Definitely want to know all I can before making any mods to my truck.

 

If you are talking about power sure LTHs provide marginal gains. It appears to vary by build and header design from what has been posted on the General Supercharger Thread.

The benefits to a SCed build are more than that though. Most builds are making slightly more power with less boost which is a positive for a build. There is also the cross post someone shared from a different Tundra community on keeping the cylinders cooler.

 

Buried in the SC thread is a cross post talking to LTHs which is worth the read. I think @Silver17 shared them.

 

Hmmm...interesting.
Need a bit more info.

 

Keith @dirtydeeds has done extensive research and tuning on our exhaust system. Give him a call or search through the SC forum. I have some info from tundratalk back in 2012. The stock system with a SC is pretty good. Maybe add a cutback that doesn't rob torque