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Reset Flex Fuel Alcohol/Ethanol Percentage Level with Bidirectional Scan Tool

Discussion in '2nd Gen Tundras (2007-2013)' started by lowercaseg, Apr 25, 2023.

  1. May 4, 2025 at 5:18 PM
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    Zeke66

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    Recently picked up a 2017 FF Sequoia and didn't investigate this before. Now that I am looking the alcohol % is showing 75% and a long term fuel trim of -20%. No physical signs of issues though and the fuel economy actually seems better than it should be ~18.5, which shouldn't be the case right?
    Should I get a tool and reset it anyway?
     
  2. May 4, 2025 at 5:27 PM
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    dt325ic

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    If it were my truck, yes.

    When the alcohol percentage is that high, the fuel pump is working harder in flex fuel mode.
     
  3. May 4, 2025 at 5:34 PM
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    Zeke66

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    Okay. I'll order one today.

    Any explanation for increased fuel economy? From what I read it should be the opposite?
     
  4. May 4, 2025 at 5:49 PM
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    I’d leave it alone. The fuel pump isn’t working any harder. All that’s happening is the computer has closed a valve and so now the pump is sending the full 60psi to the engine instead of bleeding off some pressure and only sending 43psi to the engine. No way I’d risk losing 18mpg. My truck was reading 85% when I scanned it but I had zero issues for three years. Now I did clear mine but noticed zero difference after doing so. If I had to do it all over again, I’d leave it alone.
     
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  5. May 4, 2025 at 8:35 PM
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    Little confused with everything I've read. The ECM should be sending more fuel volume when it thinks its running e85 to compensate for energy density, but then the long term trim is reducing that number because it thinks it's running rich for e85. So is it basically running near normal anyways?
     
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  6. May 8, 2025 at 8:41 AM
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    Thank you for the post... I'm considering the same purchase. I have the 2016 4x4TRD Pro 38 gal tank as well, and I'm on the hunt for a way to improve my fuel efficiency. Has doing the fuel density reset helped yours?

    IMG_4674.jpg
     
  7. May 8, 2025 at 10:09 AM
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    RobertD

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    It will only help if the sensors are not reading correctly.

    Tundra and fuel efficiency do not go together.... if you are really concerned about fuel consumption, really look if a truck fits your needs. Must folks using their truck as a truck daily are probably 12-15 mpg depending on load, set up, and traffic patterns
     
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  8. May 8, 2025 at 10:53 AM
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    AZBoatHauler SSEM#140 / 2.5 gen plebe

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    I got 8.7mpg towing the side by side up to T2S - honestly I was expecting worse.
     
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  9. May 8, 2025 at 10:59 AM
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    RobertD

    RobertD SSEM#123, ASCM#4 "I call it Vera" ~Jayne Cobb

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    Well... towing was not addressed in my estimate :rofl:
     
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  10. May 8, 2025 at 11:02 AM
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    AZBoatHauler SSEM#140 / 2.5 gen plebe

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    Absolutely - just hammering home these motors don't sip they chug.
     
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  11. May 8, 2025 at 12:10 PM
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    Just like the owners


    :cheers:
     
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  12. May 8, 2025 at 12:16 PM
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    :spy:
     
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  13. May 8, 2025 at 2:40 PM
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    Well. @EmergencyMaximum is just going to be appalled by this. He easily could've hit somewhere in the 18mpg range with no ac. Maybe even more. :rofl:
     
  14. May 9, 2025 at 3:27 AM
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    well, I’m not even getting the 12-15 so I feel like something is off.
    And Btw, I sat myself down and had the “gas mileage talk” with myself and decided this was a “good with the bad” love affair HOWEVER, this doesn’t mean I won’t push my beast to do her best!
     
  15. May 9, 2025 at 3:29 AM
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    Happy Friday y’all!

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  16. May 20, 2025 at 9:23 AM
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    It helped for a while, but my fuel pump was on it's last leg and became a no start issue again, so I ended up replacing the fuel pump myself with a Delphi unit....the Denso through the dealers are on severe backorder, and I was able to get the Delphi through Rock Auto. It wasn't the easiest job to do, but it's running in tip top shape now. The fuel mileage has increased ever so slightly since the fuel/alcohol density reset and new pump. Went from 13-13.5 to about 15-15.5 mpg.
     
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