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Is this 05 TRD AC 4.7 worth keeping? (New member looking for advice)

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by Tamarack, Apr 8, 2025.

  1. Apr 10, 2025 at 5:59 AM
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    Tamarack

    Tamarack [OP] New Member

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    Thanks, Shifty! Would you recommend short oil change intervals for the first couple? Any other tips for the motor? I read through your thread. Some of the ignition coils we’re starting to crack when I was putting new iridium plugs in there, since the densos are expensive, I will change those as they break.

    My plan currently is to keep it, wire wheel, fluid film, change all belts and fluids, do the LBJs and drive her consistently from there. If for some reason I don’t like it, I should be able to get back 80%+ of the $ I put into it, so not much risk. Will keep you guys posted.
     
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  2. Apr 10, 2025 at 7:11 AM
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    shifty`

    shifty` Just like witches at black masses

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    Not really "my thread", only one person can post a thread. Quite a few of us worked to build it up. I get PMs a couple dozen times a year to make updates, add/remove content. It's really a community thread. I'm not the expert, but plenty of experts chimed in to build that thread.

    In that thread, 2nd reply, you'll find a bulleted list of "what to do" after you buy the truck. Consider it a "setting a maintenance baseline" so you have a definitive starting point.

    I can't make recommendations on whether short interval OC is needed w/o seeing under the valve covers. If there's sludge and varnish, sure. But I also wouldn't go ham and pop off the valve covers unless they're leaking and need repair. And given the level of rust I'm seeing, I'd hope it's not the case, but you may snap a valve cover bolt or two on removal, you wouldn't be the first. Seems like about 1 in 20 is the current ratio for unlucky victims there. :D

    Note on the coil packs. Cracks don't mean much. Note the cross-section; only the copper parts are carrying power, and if it's the boots that are cracked you can buy replacement boot pack from Denso a hell of a lot cheaper, this is the part for V8 trucks.
     
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  3. Apr 10, 2025 at 8:50 AM
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    FiatRunner

    FiatRunner 2003 rich

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    I'm pretty late to the party here, but I definitely wouldn't sell your truck. It's got a lot of life left in it.

    I'm from the midwest too- and the battle with salt and rust is very real. I've used both fluid film and Blaster surface shield on my frame, and I like surface shield more. I use a LOT, you should too. More info in this post.

    As Shifty said above, maintenance schedule. A lot of people get into the "it's a Toyota, it'll be fine!" mentality, and do no maintenance besides oil changes. It sure sounds like you know not to do that, but I can't reiterate enough that a little bit of attention and an hour or two of extra work can make the difference between a good running truck and a great running truck.

    Another reason why I don't think you should sell it is because there are little (or no) vehicles that can match the capability, reliability, ease of maintenance, and value that a first gen offers. When people come on here and ask "should I sell my truck??", I'm always hesitant to say yes.
     
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  4. Apr 12, 2025 at 11:29 AM
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    Tamarack

    Tamarack [OP] New Member

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    Quick update: I found an independent Lexus/Toyota specialist in town. He’s personally owned a couple 1st Gen tundras that both died of rust cancer here. He said I have 5+ years on the frame easily, likely 8+ years with some elbow grease. Core frame is solid. He said he hasn’t seen a better truck for under $15k within 200 miles and he’s looking himself for his son. I paid $12k after taxes and fees. He recommended starting with all fluids, belts and pulleys and tensioners, thermostat, new radiator, and the lower ball joints (I acquired OEM parts for this). This was in line with my expectations but a relief. Will let you all know if we run into any other hiccups.

    So I have started by removing the battery and wire wheeling and sanding under it. Got new oem battery hold down. Cleaned and polished what I could in the engine bay. Then spent 5 ours this morning wire wheeling and sanding the frame. I’m getting down to bare clean hard metal pretty easily. Four cans of fluid film so far. There are spots I don’t like, but the areas of importance seem solid. I will continue to bathe it in lanolin, and be watching each year for touch ups.

    Found front and rear 4600 bilsteins for $350 shipped, couldnt resist. I will be around $15K all in with purchase, parts, and labor. Not the best deal, but hoping for plenty more life left. Ready to start enjoying the truck! Driving around town, it’s so smooth and straight. Nice ride.

    Thank you for everyone’s input, will keep you posted
     
  5. Apr 12, 2025 at 4:15 PM
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    IEsurfer

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    this guy lives somewhere in the Milky Way now back off Mr internet stalker
     
  6. Apr 13, 2025 at 5:46 AM
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    Dook55

    Dook55 RCLB Guy

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    What I do is wait until August and put the truck on jack stands outside with tires off and rotors covered and pressure wash it diligently, especially at the frame lamination seams. Then I let it dry 10 days in hot dry weather before I spray the Fluid Film. On the frame lamination seams I come back a day later and spray them again so more of it will ooze in. I also coat the rear axle housing.
    Then it's good for at least 2 Montana winters.
    When I painted one of my trucks 3 years a go I replaced the bed so it was a great time to doctor up the frame rails.
     
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  7. Apr 14, 2025 at 5:16 AM
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    G_unit3000

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    I am originally from northern Minnesota and now live in NJ so rust has been an issue I've dealt with. I want to highlight what @FiatRunner recommended. You really need to use a lot Fluid Film, more than you can dispense from an aerosol can. There are cheap sprayers with attachments on Amazon that are well reviewed or get the Wool wax sprayer with long attachments and 360 spray tip. You'll want to spray the entire underside of your truck, including bed, fenders/body panels, engine bay, wheel wells, and inner boxed frame rails to protect against aerosolized salt spray which goes everywhere and gets into everything crack/seam. Do the spraying early to midsummer rather than later in the fall when things are already cool. The heat soak of summer will promote creeping of fluid film. Think about spraying 2 gallons plus (8 quarts). I did this last year and I just found a few areas I still missed. Pop off all the body plugs and spray into these areas. Scrape off all of the loose rust and then fluid film it. Don't waste your time repainting. You'll never get all of the rust off without a massive undertaking. There is a YouTube channel, Repair Geek, and he covers all of this in detail in videos over 5-7 years. I'd also recommend a video by South Main Auto (he lives in upstate NY) in which he covers how to spray. I can look it up if you like . Spray cans will not properly get the job done.....just my 2 cents!
     
  8. Apr 14, 2025 at 5:26 AM
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    tvpierce

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    A wire wheel isn't going to cut it, you need a needle scaler. You have rust scale (where it's bubbled up, not just surface rust) in many spots that a wire wheel isn't going to remove -- it's just going to polish the scale. Also, a needle scaler will reach lots of places a wire wheel cannot. I had to remove rust from my frame before treating it, and let me tell you there are LOTS of tight places you need to get to.

    Here are two great videos that show the difference:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogtA1Ryv4ng

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMR_OaEN5ec
     
  9. Apr 14, 2025 at 5:35 AM
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    tvpierce

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    +1

    I used POR-15 on mine. It was a total waste of time, effort, and money. It started peeling after a couple of years, making it worse than if it wasn't there.
     
  10. Apr 14, 2025 at 7:16 AM
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    Looking at the frame pictures, if you cleaned up the rust and coated it, I don't see why you'd not get 10 years out of it (at least judging by where I live).
     

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