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Bmf and JakeJakes sequoia axle shenanigans

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by bmf4069, Jan 24, 2025.

  1. Feb 2, 2025 at 9:12 AM
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    455h0le_dachshund

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    On the second gens+?
    I don't even know what diff they run.
    But you're probably right, they are likely not to work. I couldn't say one way or the other
     
  2. Feb 2, 2025 at 9:43 AM
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    Looks like it’s the 5125 series and not the 5100 series.

    https://cart.bilsteinus.com/universal-product
     
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  3. Feb 2, 2025 at 9:51 AM
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    I deleted the ABS in my 2004 access cab. You can search for it in my tacoed tundra build. The elegant way of doing it is pilfering a few brake lines from a 2000-2002 non-ABS equipped tundra. It makes a seamless install. Just keep in mind that while not having ABS works wonderfully in standard day to day situations, it may or may not be wonderful in split second emergency situations. Though chances are if you have to completely slam on the brakes, having or not having ABS most likely won’t prevent the inevitable, but it may (or may not) minimize it.
     
  4. Feb 2, 2025 at 9:52 AM
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    des2mtn Down to seeds and stems again, too

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    Yes, second gen Tacos. 3rd gen tacos have a different e-locker than the second gen as well.
     
  5. Feb 2, 2025 at 10:06 AM
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    Line locks are super rad for offroading. I love them when it comes to winching (you can also use them for a “front dig” if you have front wheel drive). I usually install the lock on the front axle though. I have Mico-Locks in two of my rigs. The price on them have gone up exponentially over the years though. I installed a SWAGELOK on my jeep wrangler YJ. It’s an uber reliable manual ball valve. It was fairly affordable. The only problem is finding a place to mount it in a tundra.

    I can’t remember which model Swage i used. It was a stainless steel 1/4 quarter turn lever. It looked like this one on fleabay. The Swage is available with MANY different fitting and thread sizes, so you’ll definitely want to research the one you need. And keep in mind that pretty much any valve can work as a line lock. Just make sure it’s rated to over 2000psi. And i probably wouldn’t buy a clone off allied express.

    Google search “swagelok stainless 1/4 turn valve”


    https://www.ebay.com/itm/2862197329...flG3Oc226aHXzugOgE4H73NFi2QM2x9RoCBaIQAvD_BwE
     
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  6. Feb 2, 2025 at 2:25 PM
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  7. Feb 2, 2025 at 3:54 PM
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    Haters will say its fake :rofl:

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    Swapped the diff's just to verify everything was kosher. Can confirm.
    The Sequoia backing plates are way beefier. Housings are identical except for total length and the backing plate mounts.
    The ABS sensor bore is the same size, and the tone rings appear to be identical. ABS may be as easy as swapping over the tundra sensors.
     
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  8. Feb 2, 2025 at 4:14 PM
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    So is the plan still to keep the leaf springs, or y'all going to four link it?
     
  9. Feb 2, 2025 at 4:18 PM
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    Four link would require a fuel cell and a bunch of other mess that makes the truck not very streetable. Beau still wants to be able to drive it to T2S and the likes.

    U-bolt eliminator and leafs is the plan. Similar to my setup.
     
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  10. Feb 2, 2025 at 4:18 PM
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    FrenchToasty The Desert rat, SSEM #5/25, 6 lug enthusiast

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    Why stop at 4?
     
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  11. Feb 2, 2025 at 5:33 PM
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    How many you thinkin?:monocle:
     
  12. Feb 2, 2025 at 5:34 PM
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    Is the Sequoia not four linked? Just take it's gas tank :D
     
  13. Feb 2, 2025 at 5:40 PM
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    Wait. Did I read this correctly, that the diff housing is identical between DC/Seq and the AC/RC?

    If yes, what year Seq diff housing is that? I swear I saw pictures showing the axle length is different, and measurements showing the length is different by around 1".
     
  14. Feb 2, 2025 at 5:46 PM
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    I'm not sure if we ever looked into what year the donor was, we should probably do that on the next trip.

    I definatly misspoke/typed there. The housings are identical *except for length. :hattip: Going back to edit that now.

    I'll pull all the numbers at some point and compile them here. I didn't want to get in to deep today, just verify that we could re use Beau's diff.
     
  15. Feb 2, 2025 at 5:50 PM
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    Octuple-link it is
    Not that easy, The Sequoia packaging all way different.
     
  16. Feb 2, 2025 at 5:51 PM
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    What year was the Sequoia? I can't remember if all of them had the harmonic dampener or if it's just the 05-07 Sequoias that did, but I'd double check the spacing on the pinion flange too especially if it's an 05-07.

    My truck came with a 60x60mm pinion flange, @FrenchToasty 's came with a 66x66mm pinion flange. I had my locker/gears done with his carrier/ flange. Instead of swapping the pinion flanges, I changed the driveshaft companion flange to one that's 66x66mm.
     
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    Cut the back half of the frames off and swap? :D
     
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    des2mtn Down to seeds and stems again, too

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    I want to post a gif right now but it'll get me banned.
     
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    Just measured them both at 60mm, the Sequoia flange has studs where the Tundra flange has through holes. We will be reusing his existing diff, so none of that is of real concern.

    Now I really want to know what year that Sequoia is. Its either an 02 or 04.
     
  20. Feb 2, 2025 at 5:59 PM
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    Also trying to keep the project creep in check :rofl:
     
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    des2mtn Down to seeds and stems again, too

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    Oh yeah, duh. I guess it's still good to know in case anyone is wanting to install or use as a core.
     
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    Sex change operation? o_O
     
  23. Feb 2, 2025 at 7:04 PM
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    The flange on the Sequoia third I had was also bigger than the one on my 03 and had to be swapped.
     
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    Bigger as in the bolt pattern? Or longer, as in you couldn't get the drive shaft on it?
     
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    That would be a question for the shop that did the work. Casey, Frank, and I pulled the Sequoia third from the junkyard. Casey was the one that realized the flanges were different sizes. Dude must have a photographic memory. The mounting surface diameter was bigger on the Sequoia iirc. I also think the flange might've been thicker on the Sequoia. I would assume the bolts were the same pattern and size, but I couldn't say one way or the other. I never put them side by side. I only looked at em both separately, but didn't measure anything. Just eyeballed it.
    @The Black Mamba has that flange now on the T3's original third/gears/LSD. Maybe we can get him to measure it.
     
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    Got it. @assassin10000 likely knows.
     
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    Outer diameter is larger for the harmonic damper. It's also threaded instead of using through bolt/nutss. Pattern is different iirc.

    I think total length was the same or very similar but I never measured it.
     
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    The sequoia axle is 1.5" wider.

    It was an 02. Well, that's what the windshield said anyways.

    Got a text from memario. I'll order the shocks and prop valve tomorrow. I don't remember if I posted in here, but I ordered new brakes for the sequoia axle.
     
  29. Feb 2, 2025 at 10:09 PM
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    I was really tempted to go this route with my tundra (if i were ever to install a rear locker), but the factory toyota E Locker mounting assembly is just so bulbous, that it looks like it could get smashed against rocks and hidden tree stumps. I never bothered to research the strength of the actual locking portion of the diff. Like will it hold up to a 5500 pound truck with a V8 and 33” tires? I can only assume that it isn’t as robust as an ARB.
     
  30. Feb 2, 2025 at 10:22 PM
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    I bet that 1.5" wider axle would make it equal track to the front. I bet you can keep the spacers.
    I don't recall how much skinnier our rears taco than our fronts, but I want to say it's about 1.5". Personally I hate that my front track is wider than my rear.
     
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