Tundra engine recall - interesting news

"Where there's enough smoke, there's fire"
- Anonymous Guy Who Didn't Burn to Death

"There's nothing to see here"
- Dude who got burnt

 

I have been through this before, but I do not have proof other than a different serial number and different bolt assemblies in the block. I believe the Hybrid motor has a different block P/N than the normal gas burner. Hense why the failures are less than the gas burning motor. No proof other than a A added on to the end of the block and some different machining which took place on the Hybrid motor.

 

The difference is part number is because one is a Hybrid and one is a non-Hybrid. They do this to differentiate parts. Internally, the Hybrid & non-Hybrid, are 100% identical.

 

I was just told the exact same thing. Engines internally are 100% identical.

 

So then failure percentages could be the same but failure rates less due to the fact that there is less Hyrbids in the marketplace to begin with. The take rate on a hybrid is probably less than 20 percent.

 

Think this is true - also
think his truck was manufactured during the recall notice time.

 

Hybrids may take longer to fail as well due to less stress on the motor due to electric motor torque being applied during take off and other higher need situations.

 

He has posted multiple times on Facebook.

Oil changes at 1K, 3K, and 5K. He stayed with 5K OCIs after the 5K. Failure happened at 47,931 miles.

February 17, 2022 Build Date.

 

How easy is it to determine engine build date? My truck mandate is in August of 2022.

 

A quick check of the short block part number.

Both the Hybrid & non-Hybrid have gone to the same part number. Unsure of when the change happened.

11410-F9160 - Block Assy, Cylinder - MSRP $3,600.56

 

I'm not on FB - just not my kind of interaction. Let Ryan know I said hello. I always appreciated his sharing on this forum.

 

Dealer and/or Brand Engagement Center should be able to provide it.

 

The most dependable 300 is the non-turbo triple-locked cloth seats version that they get in Qatar for $55-60k.

UN spec.

I’d buy one in a heartbeat even though it has a NA V6 in it.

Not sure if they make a triple locked poverty pack version with the diesel

 

There is a thread on this topic somewhere here. I think the engine build date is stamped on the front of the upper block under the plastic cover.

 

Yes, but you guys or gals act like all of these motors suffer this fate eventually and they have the same fatal flaw. Toyota is repairing them, there are many 3rd gen Tundras will well over 100k miles and no engine failures. So, is this something that affected a small batch of motors or something to be concerned about. I know you only have an issue when you have an issue but this is not great information to know. I could see why everybody should be concerned if it is a fatal flaw which could occur on any Toyota 3.4 liter TT motor.

 

If Toyota, the manufacturer of the engine, was unable to determine what VINs were affected, then it is safe to say that they are doing right by the consumer to just go ahead and replace the engine.

 

the internals may be the same but there is no way that Toyota used the same block on the Hybrid, it does not have an alternator nor a starter but uses the electrical system to start the truck. The casing for the block point mounts would have to be different than the gas burner. I guess they could block them off but the mounting holes and machine points would have to be different or else it would not line up.

 

Is this a California reference?

 

Huh. I have a unicorn hybrid as everytime I start up after the gas door has been opened, I hear a 12v starter.

 

The Hybrid has a traditional starter, but no traditional alternator.

 

Also, the Hybrid only has a single accessory belt, whereas the Non-Hybrid has two.

 

only running the a/c compressor, I am guessing.

Good thing I have the 150k / 10 year warranty. Toyota USA should extended the manufacturing warranty for all 22s and 23s

 

No, but California is full of like-minded folks that put their head in the sand and ignore problems.

Much like those who "know for a fact" these engines don't have any problems

 

True, I never said the engine didn't have problems on launch but to categorize every 3.4 liter TT motor that Toyota built into this category is NOT correct. You can do that, but the failures are not all encompassing and affecting every Toyota TT v6 built and put into a Tundra.

 

If there is metal flying around in there....being a hybrid won't mean shit. I own a hybrid and trust me...it gets a ton of stress

 

You’re still assuming the debris theory is the correct reason for all of the failures

 

And you’re speculating it’s not. Don’t know how to break the news to you, but it’s no better.

 

https://global.toyota/en/newsroom/toyota/35758437.html
https://www.toyota.ae/en/configure/?step=color&material=TYLC05P35AS4RA24&modelName=amuty0008-2024
https://www.toyota.co.za/vehicles/land-cruiser-300

I stand corrected on the AU and NZ models, however, a few simple searches will show that they sell the 300 in many, many places with this engine in it.

 

I will stand corrected, could you explain why Toyota won’t sell Diesels here then? Or the 70 series? I was under the impression those types of vehicles wouldn’t allow them to pass their fleet CAFE or crash test stands. If that’s not the case then do you know why?

Edit- I quoted the wrong post, this was supposed to be I reference to the emissions controls and so on

 

I think we were both incorrect about the LC300. I think Toyota held the 300 back from here as they want to push the Sequoia and the poor sales of the 200 from the last few years they were available here maybe? Anyway, not looking for a fight just asking questions.