My wheels are too big and heavy.

455...I'd ask the previous owner but he died literally two weeks after the sale. He wouldn't have known anyway.

When I asked about "records" they gave me two receipts: battery and tires. That was the extent of their "records."

I'll try and get pics tomorrow...everyone keep their panty hose on.

 

Do they look like any of these Toyota 17s?

 

Dude! I appreciate the interest ya'll are taking in this. LOL

Top wheels in that pic look famililar.....I'll get the wife to get that pic tomorrow.

 

or do they look more like this?

 

Gah, I remember those. Was a running joke running those on your MKIV over at Vortex once upon a time.

 

Its what a 17" wheel measures from lip to lip..............

 

While I haven't needed to use chains on this truck, I had no idea that you can't use front chains. I thought you had to have chains on all four tires if you're going to use four-wheel drive.

 

If they are aluminum wheels there's a decent chance if you look on the back side there will be a diameter x width stamped on it. Also the back space in mm.

 

Weather broke for a bit today and we got some pics.

Here those are.....wife took pics so not sure how well one can see the tape measure.



Also got under her for a pic of the clearance issue. Didn't appear to be near as close as when I had the truck jacked up.

 

Those are stock wheels with one size bigger in diameter tires.
Shown below is stock size 265/65r17 vs your tires 265/70r17 which is just one extra inch of height.

The clearance between the tire and the control arm aren't anything concerning I don't think. You can leave it be or spend the money on new smaller tires if you see that as a benefit to your situation, hate to throw out near new tires.

You do seem to have some rust on some components so I hope you are keeping an eye on all that.

I'm not familiar with any of your other posts anywhere but make sure your lower ball joints and timing belt are up to date.

 

5” backspace on those OEM wheels (the best OEM choice) and 265/70r17 tire is no prob.

 

I also just noticed these are LT tires, wouldn't that usually make them extra heavy for higher load range? I can't read the load range printed on the tires

 

There's one stupid blade of grass obscuring the Load Range. They're either C or E.

No need to measure with a ruler. Though the size has already been posted, the wheels will have the size stamped on the backside. Unless you know exactly how the measurements are supposed to be taken, your measurement don't mean much.

The weight difference between P-rated and LT tires will be noticeable. The weight difference between LT C and LT E will also be noticeable. I think all our trucks, if 4wd and used off pavement even occasionally, should have LT tires. Only a rare few need LTE E. C is totally adequate for most of us. There's also major differences in weight between different tire brands with the same load rating.

I'm living dangerously and don't have LT tires on my truck. Blowout waiting to happen, most likely. The difference in weight on the same brand, same model tire was 10lbs per tire when comparing my XL (extra load) tires to LT-E.

 

They are also mis matched. Fronts appear to be newer / more aggressive than the rears.

 

You're right, I thought it was a difference on inside and outside tread but yes they are different. Need to verify front and rear tires are same size.
@Bought2Pull can you get a picture of all 4 tires that show the entire outside sidewall?

 

Thanks a ton guys! Really learning things here. I (now) recall the seller stating "they bought two new tires, didn't have the money for four."

Once we catch another break in the weather, I'll get you more tire info and pics of all 4 tires.

So an "LT" marked tire is meant for heavier loads?

 

Generally they are 8-10 ply sidewalls and capable of carrying heavier loads. They are heavier themselves due to the beefier construction. Overkill on these trucks for hauling as the trucks capacity is well within P rated tires. Some sizes and styles are only available in LT unfortunately, that’s how I ended up with them.

 

I may be wrong (happened before), but my understanding is that LT is exactly the correct tire for our trucks. And essentially all trucks, at least 4wd versions. LT= Light Truck. That's what we own. "P" tires are "passenger", meant for cars, vans, maybe light-duty 2wd pickups. There might be a tire between P and LT...and those are the SL, "standard load" tire. A near carbon copy of those, but with slightly higher weight rating at max inflation, is the XL, "extra load". I guess those are truck tires for people who use their truck like a car. If you haul any kind of load and take the truck off pavement, LT is the right tire.

Now within LT there are different Load Ranges. They tend to refer to sidewall ply, tread ply and tread depth. Load Range C is the pretty standard LT tire for the typical truck owner who isn't doing anything crazy, but definitely using their truck as a truck. D and E are for heavy offroad use and/or heavy hauling. Like Knabores said, 8-10 ply tread and multi-ply sidewall.

On all my Toyota pickups including my Tacoma, I ran LT, Load Range C tires. Without asking. That's just what the shops gave me. Multiple shops across multiple states. LT LR-C was standard. At least in the west.

 

Hello!
Skimmed the thread a bit, and I don't recall anyone mentioning it, but the tire being close to the upper control arm is fine (unless you want to run chains).
The distance of the tire's sidewall and the upper control arm/UBJ area won't change during normal operation (it will slightly at the upper control arm as the joint flexes, but a minimal amount).
The "LT" on a tire size denotes "Light Truck" application, aka usually stiffer sidewalls, higher PSI/Load rating, heavier construction. From the factory, our trucks all came with non-LT rated tires. I'd stick with what you've got wheels wise, and find some good tires. If you don't need ATs, Michelin Defender LTXs are phenomenal tires. My mother runs them in 265/70r17 on her 19 4Runner, and she has run them previously in other sizes on two other vehicles.

 

be that as it may, most 1/2 ton pickups ship with P rated tires. And most P rated tires in truck sizes can support 2600# or more of weight per tire giving you 5200# of capacity across the back axle, which happens to be rated more like 4000#. No need to go LT for carrying capacity. But you can argue for off-road use, LTs tend to be more puncture resistant due to their construction and typically deeper tread patterns.

 

I wanted a set back when they were first released back in 1991...only because they were so goofy

 

P tires will get better fuel economy than LT tires

 

Which is why the ship on 1/2 ton trucks

 

I'm definitely no tire expert, just repeating what I've heard and assumed over the years, so yeah, take my input for what it's worth. My current tires are not LT, and they're much lighter than LT. I still get the same crap gas mileage as the rest of you. But yes, in theory, and in practice when comparing extreme differences (like a P rated vs a LT LR-E), you'll likely notice a real mpg difference. Not sure I'd notice a difference in a gas hog like the Tundra between a P and a LT LR-C. Our trucks tend to ship with shit tires, so I'm not sure it tells us anything.

Might be that because of where I live, LT is standard. Shops assume people are going to be offroad. That's what informs my assumption that LT is standard for our trucks, and Tacoma-size trucks. If you go to a tire shop, they'll give you LT without asking. Many dealerships in the west put LT tires on 4x4 trucks. So I'm used to seeing LT except when someone specifically asks for something different.

 

Lots of great replies here, thanks again.

I may replace the rear tires with something to match the front tires (I know the front and rears are different) when I get everything else fixed.

I don't think I'll run the truck in winter just to keep salt off the frame. I like the option of using chains but since it won't be used in winter anyway makes that a moot point.

Come tire rotation time, I think I'll get a shop to do it as long as they don't over-torque the lug nuts as I hate that crap. Later on, maybe next summer, I hope to get the rims sandblasted and re-powder coated, just going back with a dull silver look.

 

265/70R16
265/65R17

 

Greg, there’s some good YouTube videos on technique of lifting big heavy wheel/tires. Some little petite gals lifting monster off-road tires solo. You may want to practice a little before you have to do it for real.

 

Good idea, thanks.

 

Will do today! Weather breaking and I'll be outside some while the tree trimming crew is here.