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30k service from dealer

Discussion in '2.5 Gen Tundras (2014-2021)' started by 478 tundra, Aug 3, 2024.

  1. Aug 3, 2024 at 1:32 PM
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    Hey mine is the same way I changed my own cabin airfilter too about 5k miles ago when they try to charge me way too much for it. Their excuse was labor charges. After watching a video on YouTube I just shake my head and decided to change myself. Just like maf sensor cleaning.
     
  2. Aug 4, 2024 at 6:02 PM
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    Well I glad the "technicians" at the local Toyota dealer (franchise) know more than the engineers who built the truck. Follow the service manual a nothing else. They will fk up more than they will ever fix. Nothing short of thieves....... Brake systems is sealed, I never trust those pimps to bleed and get air in the system....
     
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  3. Aug 5, 2024 at 5:34 AM
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  4. Sep 23, 2024 at 12:34 PM
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    September update - I finally hit 30k miles on my 2021 and figured I would call another Toyota dealer that has seemed trustworthy in prior service activity. 2nd dealer I called is not as convenient, but as you will see, apparently worth the extra effort. I was curious to see how their 30k mile service list compared to the one above. To my surprise, they only recommended the fuel emissions service, oil change, tire rotation and overall inspection. Total of ~$300 vs. ~$1,500 quoted above. WTF? So I dug into the Tundra warranty and maintenance guide to confirm, and sure enough there is no recommendation for differential fluids, transfer case, alignment, brake fluid, power steering fluid at 30k mile interval. I can only imagine how many folks at my local dealer have paid for a number of the items listed above based on "recommended by Toyota at 30k miles" when it's not even recommended by Toyota.
     
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  5. Sep 23, 2024 at 12:57 PM
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    Toyota would not recommend anything costing it money during warranty period, unless totally inescapable, like engine oil change.
     
  6. Sep 24, 2024 at 3:50 PM
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    Thats the same as when it's under warranty they don't know what's wrong with it but as soon as it's out of warranty they know exactly what is wrong with it. They screwed me plenty when I bought mine why go back for more.
     
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    Some of it is recommended at 30k miles, depending on how you use your truck.

    IMG_5799.jpg
     
  8. Sep 25, 2024 at 6:09 AM
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    Yes, I read the maintenance log and noted that diff fluids and transfer case should be considered at 30k - depending how you use the truck. But they didn't ask me how I use the truck or recommend inspecting the fluids first. And based on my use case (never towed anything, not enough significant dusty road miles...), the differential and transfer case fluids don't need to be changed. Confirmed by the 2nd dealer I called. I asked them about differential and transfer case fluid, and they said it wouldn't need to be done at 30k. This is purely greed and borderline attempted theft by the first dealer.
     
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  9. Sep 25, 2024 at 6:23 AM
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    Beat me to it. Good point and information. :thumbsup:
     
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  10. Sep 25, 2024 at 6:28 AM
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    Every person uses trucks differently. I try and do diffs every 30k miles (I tow a lot and heavy weight). Now I have also known people that never do axle gear lube for 250k miles. No failures or problems. Go figure. Then there are people that have failures 200 miles outside of the warranty.

    For you, going 50-60K miles probably is a safe bet.
     
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  11. Sep 25, 2024 at 10:34 AM
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    I too just hit 30k miles on my DC truck. I have big tires and am off-road pretty often. I'll be changing all my fluids myself over the next couple weeks. Except brake fluid. I'll have a shop do that.
     
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  14. Sep 25, 2024 at 10:45 AM
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    Absolutely. Depress the brake pedal and fix it against the seat with anything, one wheel off at a time, pump a few oz out, top up. The first corner will be longer, because you need to evacuate the reservoir full of old fluid first. But really nothing complicated. ATF replacement is much worse, especially with cat shields installed.
     
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  15. Sep 25, 2024 at 10:46 AM
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    If you do brake pads at the same time then push pistons back with the bleeding screw open. That would empty the calipers (where the most of old and dirty fluid is).
     
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  16. Sep 25, 2024 at 11:12 AM
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    Awesome, thank you. Maybe I will attempt it.
     
  17. Sep 25, 2024 at 11:17 AM
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    Are you replacing the pads? I had hard time installing Toyota pads in front and failed altogether in rear. Bad fit. Bosch pads were a breeze on the other hand.
     
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  18. Sep 25, 2024 at 12:12 PM
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    No, they are still fine.
     
  19. Sep 25, 2024 at 12:34 PM
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    I have a pressurized bleeder kit you can borrow, easy one man job
     
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    Alright, awesome. I just might take you up on that in a couple weeks.
     
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    I have Motive bleeder like that. It failed to evacuate air bubble from ATE ABS system in my Volvo. I was triggering ABS inlet/outlet valves via software and bleeding that contour at the same time, air wasn't coming out. Switched to a vacuum style pump and here you go: it burped in no time.

    Something to be aware of. That said, I have both bleeder types.
     
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    I’ve never replaced brake fluid in any vehicle I’ve owned. Never had brake issues. Will my truck explode?
     
  25. Sep 25, 2024 at 3:13 PM
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    Yeah. If you crash, haha.

    Moisture can cause corrosion issues and stuff. And brake fluid can absorb moisture. Also I've been told too much moisture could cause your brake fluid to boil. That can cause spongy brakes. Maybe even total brake failure?
     
  26. Sep 25, 2024 at 3:56 PM
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    My 60k is my next service.
    front & rear diffs, transfer case, transmission drain & fill.

    My brakes are good.
     
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    Bammer I'm disinclined to acquiesce your request.

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    Next service is 90k, this weekend.
    Transmission -drain/fill - every 30k
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    PS fluid - first time - will do every 60k
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    Coolant drain and fill , every 7.5k until 4 cycles, then every 3 years

    Likely front brakes, done at 50k, but rotors were cut, so it's time as I have pulsation when hot.
     
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    I just got half of mine done, at a local shop. The dealer did the oil change and forgot everything else after I declined their fuel cleaning so I am done with them. I use premium non-ethanol 99% of the time so I am not sure worried yet at such low miles.

    Just got the front and rear diffs change, drain and fill on the transmission, and the transfer case.

    Transfer case fluid is over 100 a quart or whatnot from Toyota, blew my mind.

    Total bill: $914.xx

    Labor was about 300, a little under. Fluids were just under 600, and tax was about 40.

    They said that there was metal in all of it, and the rear diff fluid was dirty. I have put loads of stone multiple times in my bed among other loads that might have pushed it. Happy I did the drain and fill, its shifting much smoother. My transfer always was loud and clunky, I am hoping it's smoothed out a little as well, but haven't engaged yet.
     
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    interesting, i wonder how many people are enduring these hard sells… wanted to revive this thread to make owners more aware because a similar things happened today when my wife took the 2023 tundra max to the dealer with 29673 miles, was told she needed both differentials , transfer case, brake fluid, engine o8l and filter $900 plus. No heavy towing or offroad8ng , they got upset after i got on the line and asked for basic 30k service. I contacted two other rpair centers who told me to run…
    Greed. I hope a Toyota rep is reading this forum.
     
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  30. May 3, 2025 at 3:51 AM
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    I bought my 17 a year ago in January with 31k on it. According to the carfax it has had the 30k service done twice so far by previous owner at the same dealer.
     

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