1st Gen. Lunch Table - General Discussion

Yeah it was about a foot front the roof, inches from the satellite dish on a pole next to the house, and inches from the windows. The fence around the pool wasn't so lucky though.

 

I'm going to say get the ABS to activate a couple of times.

 

Could be your master cylinder is going bad

 

He shouldn't need to. I've done the brakes on the tundra twice now, had no need to trip the ABS module.

 

Someone else here had that same issue with the ABS and had to get it programmed (not sure to activate) to bleed the brakes properly.

Maybe it’s not an issue with everyone having ABS? Actually when I just checked, it’s only if you have air in the ABS module you can’t get rid of by normal bleeding.

 

Tell us more. Please.

 

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It is super complicated, which is why I think we've been choking on it - usually when there's multiple viewpoints, it turns into a bickerfest about who is right and who is wrong versus seeing where we have common overlap and working together. It's also why we really need to get the propaganda bullshit to stop, like yesterday, because it's muddying the waters too much to get anywhere. It wouldn't surprise me to find the propaganda and disinformation/persuasion campaigns are originating with those trying to beat us to the punch. But I also know a lot of it is coming from the adjacent industries who are afraid of losing lionshare of the market. But they aren't you or me.

But to your point - no. The interstates didn't initially make us any money at first. Neither did the railroads, and when we finished the railroads, we didn't start making money either, to the point I'm sure some thought it was a miserable failure. But within 2 decades, the railroads helped materialize the Industrial Revolution in our country that helped America grow andevolve faster than it ever has at any other time I'm aware of in its history. It's probably one of the sole reasons American Manufacturing became what it was, and we've since lost all traces of it thanks to globalization. It's such a great example of spend-money-make-money. If you invest in yourself and unify on something that's inevitable rather than bickering about how to manage it, or whether it's worthwhile, amazing shit happens.

That was a huge investment that, back in the day, people were absurdly critical of. "What a waste of money!" But in reality, someone out there realized we needed a way to move goods and provide services long distances, and railroads had a snowball effect that essentially drove our country to massive growth, profit, advancement. The interstate system was not much different. The benefits weren't immediate on that either, but it paved the way for us to grow, branch out, for small businesses to spring up and thrive, it essentially skyrocketed automotive technology for us, opened options other than airplanes for travel, it started our fucking hobby FFS, and launched a whole entire industry of tourism. (Unfortunately it also kinda fuckered up the railroad system).

Anyway, I know a huge swath don't want to accept it, but alternative energy is the key to our next Industrial Revolution in the USA. It has the ability to create just as many jobs and as much manufacturing as the railroad system did, and the interstate system. It's already doing exactly that elsewhere, but we've allowed propaganda to win on this one for us. We're wildly missing the boat right now. Even if you don't believe in what it could do - which is normal, there was a huge swath of the population who didn't believe in railroads, and thought the interstate system was crazy-pipe-dreaming-money-wasting-bullshit - I'd get behind it. Even if it costs you surcharges here or there to help foot the bill for infrastructure. Every 2nd/3rd generation in this country has done exactly that to make those other two things happen, and I didn't hear them bitch about it. Enough people looked past the BS and saw the bigger picture.

I dunno. I don't look at this as a "they be taking mah jerb!" or "I'm sick of this hippie dippie garbage!", even if it were that, even if this were a waste (which it's not, as other countries far ahead of us have proven time and time again), anything that unifies us on anything right now as a nation is what we are dying a slow death from not having.

 

To your point, I don't think any one energy source is the end all be all. I think it's bout strategically using multiple energy sources to achieve greatness.

That being said, I think as far as vehicles go, until further notice, hybrid electric/combustion is the way to go

 

Toyota agrees with you, and so do I.

But I think the alternative energy conversation goes so much farther than vehicles, we'd be doing ourselves a disservice to think one hinges on the other.

 

@Tundra2
https://www.tundras.com/threads/wha...ur-1st-gen-sequoia-today.102359/#post-2625616
We were poking at the differences between the FGS on page 2.
You gotta figure out if you want 4 or 5 speed trans. +9hp or not. VVT or not.... All the Tundra stuff, just slightly off.
Do a little homework so you buy the right one. Close don't getRdone.
Good Luck.

 

Who is this wood chopin’ chick anyhow?...and oh how the other team is lucky to have claimed her for their own! From watching just part of that video it looks like she would be fun to cut firewood with for the day...on a plutonic level of course.

 

He mentioned his truck doesn't have ABS.

He's replaced it twice I think.

 

Just an influencer from the Great North. Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@NicoleCoenen

Has other interests though. Someone on here, I think Assdog, posted video of her installing wood flooring into one of the vehicles she shares with her gf.

 

Remind me everything you replaced with the brakes recently? Your rear components and the master?

Last year, I replaced my rear brake shoes and then dialed them in by pressing the emergency brake repeatedly. I stopped once I could no longer hear the self adjusters clicking. In theory, they should have been adjusted at that point right? Wrong. I drove the truck down my street and it was exactly like you described, unsafe to drive. I essentially had no rear brakes and the pedal travel was terrible. I had to manually tighten the star wheel through the peep hole with a screwdriver. That got them pretty good.

Fast forward to a few months ago and I wasn't loving how they felt. This time instead of adjusting the star wheel, I adjusted the bell cranks. That made a huge difference. I had forgotten that step when installing the new shoes. My brakes right now feel as good as they get.

I know you're tired of hearing it but I suspect it still could be your rear shoes. These damn drum brakes are extremely finicky and sensitive. When they are not perfectly adjusted it makes braking terrible and makes the pedal feel spongy. I hate drum brakes.

 

timeline:
Purchased truck - unknown drum condition decent pad/rotor life.

custom rear shock setup - installed trailgear extended rear brake line, lspv relocation on custom bracket. Brakes didn’t feel good. Bled all 4 corners and the shit out of the LSPV. Got decent pedal feel back. installed extended 3/8” stainless eyelet and hardware to bring bias towards rear. Could feel rears grab pretty well. Still not great, but it was drivable.

hardline off the passenger caliper failed - cracked or something right at the fitting on the caliper and I lost a whole bottle of brake fluid. O’Reilly universal line quick fix. Bled twice and dealt with the mediocre pedal until my OEM lines came in.

replaced both hard lines off the front calipers with OEM- Bled ONLY at the front calipers. The BEST this truck has ever felt. Engages almost immediately and with great pressure at the brakes and the pedal. I can stand on the brakes without the pedal to the floor and the truck stops. It brakes hard enough to throw anything that’s in the seats straight to the floor.

buddy’s situation is very similar to @FiatRunner. He said he might give it a shot after driving my truck. He’s bled it with all the fancy dealership bleeders, 2 person method, and states his brakes components are in good condition and he’s adjusted the rear drums. My issue was ongoing since I touched the brakes up until the OEM line replacement. It feels better than when I bought the truck and I haven’t replaced drums, pads, calipers, or rotors.

part #’s for the lines.

 

She's a lez. Just stating facts is all

 

that's what i meant by the "other team"

 

They aren’t any fun unless they’re angry.

 

The two man method is what I’ve been doing. My family is getting sick of me asking them to pump the brakes! lol

I wish that was the fix. No ABS here!

Everything got replaced except for the calipers (new in ‘16), LSPV valve, and the hard lines. Everything else was replaced, including soft lines, MC, booster, pads/shoes, rotors/drums, caliper hard lines.

I’ll check them again tomorrow.

Correct me if this is the wrong way to look at this- but with normally functioning brakes, the front brakes have enough power to lock up the front wheels in the rain. Now even if the rear brakes were disconnected, not doing anything at all, shouldn’t the fronts still have lockup power? Sure, your pedal would feel like ass, but wouldn’t the performance from the front brakes be the same? They’re two entirely different braking circuits.

The reason I ask this is because what I’m experiencing isn’t a “poor pedal feel” issue. Something is really really wonky. If I can’t figure this out, I’ll probably have it towed to the mechanic, and it’s like a mile away from my house. They’re bad.

 

Oh damn, I totally recognize her, until now I had no idea she was an internet celebrity, she lives down the road from me.

 

First time I saw the 4dr electric "mustang".... I knew it was really over.

 

Maybe on a vehicle that came with great brakes from the factory. On our trucks, I seriously doubt it.

The 13WL's most of us are running really aren't great. In order for the trucks to stop safely the rears have to be working correctly. I can get my rear tires to lock up if I smash them hard enough. I don't think I've never been able to lock up the front brakes.

This is a lot more than I realized. Are you sure the push rod on the booster was adjusted correctly? We've only had a few members swap their booster but I know some have had to go back and make adjustments to how the booster and MC work together.

 

I locked the ass end up on the silver truck with the T100 booster upgrade.

I liked it a lot, but dad didn't after he started driving it. He swapped back to oem booster and Mc from a JY

It was very touchy on the pedal. I could see killing yourself in the rain happening easily

 

This one took some real skill

 

I meant lockup in the rain. I doubt I’d ever be able to lock the fronts with the stock brakes. But still, shouldn’t the front brakes have the same power regardless of what the rears are doing?

I’m pretty sure they’re correct. I measured the locations of the pedal side and MC side pushrods on the booster and they were identical to the old one. I’m also positive that the MC is bottoming out, the pedal would move a lot farther when it was disconnected. You can feel the hard stop in the pedal.

 

Usually I take the tire off before I bring it to a metal recycler for payment.

 

Lol I want stories damnit

 

I would like to add all of this still hasn't changed my mind that the Ferd Lighting should of been a SuperCharged V8

 

Not a whole lot of info was given. Obviously a curb was involved.