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1st Gen brake recommendations

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by f-edtruckgotmemessedup00, Jun 18, 2024.

  1. Jun 18, 2024 at 5:31 AM
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    f-edtruckgotmemessedup00

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    Do you guys have brand recommendations for rotors for the front and rear brakes. The rotors on my front are definitely warped (at least they feel like are) and the rear (drum?) brakes are pretty rusty. Thanks.
     
  2. Jun 18, 2024 at 5:40 AM
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    shifty`

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    This has been touched on a lot. Search is your friend.

    tl;dr -> OEM. Or Powerstop. Avoid parts store brands.

    EDIT: And don't ditch your rear adjusters, clean them up, relube, reassemble if the star adjuster is alright. Aftermarket don't work worth a shi.
     
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  3. Jun 18, 2024 at 6:06 AM
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    Don't use centric. I had a shoe break on me out of the box.

    x2 on OEM or powerstop. I have the powerstop KCOE2324 kit in mine to get the 13WL upgrade. Works good.
     
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  4. Jun 18, 2024 at 6:09 AM
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    The Black Mamba

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  5. Jun 18, 2024 at 6:11 AM
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    Oem rotors
     
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  6. Jun 18, 2024 at 7:36 AM
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    I'll admit, a couple months ago I put NAPA "Premium" front rotors on my truck, seems fine thus far. I replaced my super rusty front calipers too with some some NAPA. The ones from NAPA were painted black and were stamped 13WL.
     
  7. Jun 18, 2024 at 7:46 AM
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    1st gens with the 13WL caliper (e.g. 2003 AC 4x4 V8) appear to originally have come with semi met pads (PN 04465-35250), but now Toyota sells a ceramic pad that has gone through several part number revisions. Currently found that #04465-AZ200 pads are full width and not notched (reduced width) like some others. Can currently get pad set and 2 rotors (PN 43512-0C011) for $203.74 plus shipping from Serra Toyota, but can get them as low as $164 total with the occasional sale that gives 20% off their already discounted online prices and with free shipping up to $200 when buying over $75 worth of parts. And IIRC a caliper rebuild kit (#04479-60081) is like $15.

    Rotor: #43512-0C011
    Current Serra Price: 77.89 /ea
    @ 20% off with free shipping would be $: 62.32 / ea

    Front Disc Brake Pad Kit (set of four pads): #04465-AZ200
    Current Serra Price: $47.96
    @ 20% off with free shipping would be: $38.37
     
  8. Jun 18, 2024 at 8:08 AM
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    The Black Mamba

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    OP would also need to source the WL caliper as well. He lists his truck as a 00 which would have only had the WE calipers at that time.
     
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  9. Jun 18, 2024 at 8:12 AM
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    Good eye. If using WE caliper can use VIN to source pad and rotor part numbers if not wanting to do 13WL upgrade.
     
  10. Jun 18, 2024 at 9:05 AM
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    NickB_01TRD

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    I've heard NAPA has great caliper remans. Ran a couple myself and a few buddies have as well.
     
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    The drums tend to a bit more finicky and I'd stick with OEM. Powerstop front rotors are good.
     
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  12. Jun 18, 2024 at 9:13 AM
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    I've had good luck with them. I had NAPA reman calipers on my old truck, had those calipers for 9 or 10 years, never a problem, still looked great when I sold the truck.

    Much better than Autozone calipers I had before on an old car. Had to swap those calipers out annually.
     
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    Advics is OEM and - at least when I did mine recently - cost significantly less than what Toyota was charging. Their part finder: https://aisinaftermarket.com/online

    Kit included everything, but I don't remember it being as cheap as just the pads on the Serra sale.
     
  14. Jun 18, 2024 at 12:16 PM
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    No regrets with my z23 powerstops. The rotors arent anything special, but i'm over 10k miles & everything looks good.
     
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    Part numbers for Advics and pics showing the Toyota parts with Advics printed on them here. Originally thought the Advics pads might be cheaper but with 20% off at Serra might be a wash since the Advics aftermarket apparently do come with shims if need or want to replace the OE instead of resuse.
     
  16. Jun 18, 2024 at 6:32 PM
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    Can confirm: Advics box come with pads, shims (pre-affixed, nice timesaver), springs, grease. Essentially everything you need to do the job. I got out the door around $45 plus 5% off and whatever tax was.
     
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  17. Jun 19, 2024 at 1:16 AM
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    Had Wagner Thermoquiet on my 03 Tahoe for many years, barely wore down, no noise, very little dust, great performance. Purchased off RockAuto with discount code of course.
     
  18. Jun 19, 2024 at 4:20 AM
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    Bilstein 5100's with 2883's - close to 2" Replacing the 2883's and going back to the bottom perch ASAP -mobile/apple play stereo with sub and backup cam -Power stop HD front calipers and rotors for towing -20" wheels with 32" tires (305/50's) Toyo AT 3's with no rubbing -Westin nerf bars -Detroit axle new (not rebuilt) steering rack with poly bushings, inner and outer TRE's -Suspension Maxx extended front sway bar links -Overland tuning - medium level -Power front leather seats and steering wheel from 06 Sequoia -fully de-chromed/blacked out trim -all light housings incl 3rd brake light and tag lights replaced with smoked lenses, LED where appropriate -mini projector headlights -fully rebuilt trans and new torque converter -new complete drive shaft with spicer u-joints and carrier bearing -all LED interior lights including backlighting -new lower window seals for all 4 doors -all new hardware and clips for tailgate Next: Dirty Deeds racing exhaust with LT headers, yellow box, 12 hole DD fuel injectors, redo or replace door panels
    +1 on powerstop Z36 for trucks and towing with calipers

    silky smooth, minimal dust, quiet as a mouse

    From now on I'm just gonna get their rotors and pads for every brake job after experiencing the difference a couple of months ago

    I wish I would've replaced the brake lines too, but I'll probably do that next year
     
  19. Jun 19, 2024 at 6:30 AM
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    OEM pads and rotors are competitively priced and designed for the truck so you can't go wrong. I just installed powerstop rotors because of recommendations on this forum and because I wanted the anti-rust coating they apply to the drilled/slotted rotors (heavy road salt in my area). Can't speak for their pads, but the rotors look like they are machined to a high quality and they feel perfect. I chose OEM pads because in my experience (on other cars) aftermarket pads don't have as good a pedal feel as OEM, and they also don't feel as effective.
     
  20. Jun 19, 2024 at 9:04 AM
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    how many miles you got on yours? A sign of warping? Are hard on your brakes? Or are you soft on your brakes like @Mr.bee ? I'm getting some gx460 calipers and was thinking about the power stop rotors
     
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    FYI - wrapped rotors can be caused by repair shops installing wheels with impact guns, which create uneven torque on the studs and excessive torque. Be obsessive about installing your wheels with a torque wrench when you change a wheel yourself, and especially anytime a shop touches your car. Torque in a star pattern, gradually increasing the torque until you hit the final torque spec for your car.
     
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    I've had them for a few thousand miles had to get on them a couple of times. No signs of warping whatsoever I can promise you those I've had in the past would already show signs of it and I would be having to try to bed them again.

    The best brakes I've ever had on this truck so far
     
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  23. Jun 19, 2024 at 6:14 PM
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    I second the reco for Napa premium rotors.

    For pads on stock rotors I highly recommend Hawk Green SUV/Truck pads. When I got my truck almost 2 years ago it stopped so poorly that I was seriously considering doing the ‘big-brake’ swap …..until I started using these pads…now I feel no need for anything more, they are that good. Quiet, low dust, long wearing, super easy to modulate and smoothly pulls the truck down from any speed. Very confidence inspiring now.
    https://www.hawkperformance.com/market/truck-suv
     
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    I had great luck with the powerstop 13wL upgrade. They lasted longer and worked better than any others that I used in 20 years of ownership.
     
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    Great advice. When I first got my truck 3 or 4 years ago, the parking brake wasn't working well, so I bought all new NAPA parts. My parking brake still doesn't work well. I've slowly started working on the problem again. Luckily I was able to find some of the old adjuster parts. Others I had to order new. The little cable inside of the drum brake assembly might also be something to get OEM. My non-OEM cables have both snapped at this point.

    I haven't had great luck with Powerstop. One of my calipers seized after about a year. Bought more though because they're so cheap. Next time I might get the rebuild kit from Toyota and DIY. It isn't exactly a complex mechanism.

    Napa rotors have been solid. And I'm using OEM pads.
     
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    I was told to stay away from power stop since they have a tendency to become leaky boys.
     
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    I've had decent luck with the the seals and boots Powerstop uses for their calipers. Haven't had issues with any of mine leaking over the past few years. Keeping dust shields on helps protect the calipers from salt and the elements. If caliper seals are leaking or the boots are torn, they are not much more difficult to swap out than the pads themselves as stated. I recently rebuilt both sets of my rear Powerstop calipers using Raybestos seals/ boots and also needed one Raybestos piston.

    I originally tried the Powerstop Z36 pad/rotor kits, but I had problems with the rotors warping. I've heard that from other people as well, but others seem to have a better experience than me. I've switched to EBC slotted (not drilled) and their dusty Orangestuff pads since then in both the front and rear and have put on around the same mileage on them as the Z36s with no warping, but better bite.
     
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    If you have a rear cylinder leak. Do you have to replace the drums? If so, are there any recommendations, or is OEM the preferred?
     
  29. Jun 20, 2024 at 10:15 AM
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    I put EBC green stuff on my crappy whatever rotors came with the sequoia and 50,00 miles later they are still good. The green stuff at least have an interesting feel, not much initial bite, but once I get on them they just grab. Took a bit to get used to, but I really like them now.
     
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    I'd just clean out the drums with brake parts cleaner. Plan on replacing the shoes unless they're only lightly soaked and you're able to sand out the fluid.
     
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