Tundras live: Dumb Dad Jokes, Incorrect Opinions, and Relationship Advice.

Man, that sucks. I'm sorry. I know exactly what you mean about nothing being right. Given your profession you're probably better prepared for it than most, and this just shows the massive impact our 4 legged friend have in our lives.

I'm sorry.

 

You're claim is that because the 4 contact patches on the ground (tires) haven't changed, then there is no increase in traction. Correct? Just need to make sure I am understanding your position properly.

 

Before I start a thread in the general viewing area and get 6 pages of the typical internet responses,
Has anyone heard of transmission shops that are not a dealership, that are certified to do warranty work?
Truck is just under 10k mi, slight shudder at 60 mph, not accelerating well and not shifting well. Check engine light is on and info on radio says some type of electronics issue with trans. I reeeeeally don't wanna drop off my truck to a dealer for anything serious.

 

Some shops will do warranty work, but I don't know it there's any that are specifically just transmission shops. If I understand it correctly, it's more about whether or not a shop takes warranty work, because a certified shop had the same qualifications as a dealership.

One advantage to the dealership is that they can generally provide a loaner vehicle, and if they can't you can possibly get Toyota to cover a rental for the duration. I know @1lowlife had that happen when his cats were stolen and the dealership couldn't get parts for repairs. I would think it would be even easier when it's warranty work.

 

Sorry to hear, bud.

 

Damn dude.. all dogs are awesome but it looks like you found the one.

Hope you guys can heal up, looking forward to more Rudy stories

 

Happy Sunday everyone!

I only got about 5hrs of sleep last night, but nothing beats sleeping in your own bed. Think I picked up a head cold some too. Got some congestion that I cannot shake. Good times.

 

Your own bed makes all the difference. Hope you're not getting that damn flu. Stuff suuuucks.

 

Welcome home!
My wife was nice enough to passed on her cold, woke up with a sore throat this morning.

 

Ya that is a pretty fair breakdown

 

Does a static tire have any traction? No. Why? Because tractive force is the amount of force required for overcoming the friction of when two bodies slide or roll on each other. That force is what propels you forward. So, there is no traction in a static wheel. Torque must be applied.

So, say a vehicle produces 400 units of torque (take your pick of imperial or metric, it doesn't matter), and it is putting that torque to two wheels. For super simple explanation, lets say that on good surfaces all the torque is used equally between the 2 drive wheels. Each gets 200, for a total of 400.

Now, lets say it's a slick or loose surface, and if the full 400 torque is applied the wheels start to slip. They are losing traction. Let's say only 200 torque can be used without slipping. Well, you have half the traction at this point, because you are not able to apply the full torque, and instead each wheel is getting 100 torque for the total of 200, and the other 200 units of torque are not utilized.


Now in that slick scenario we have established let's add two more drive wheels by engaging 4x4. Well now, each wheel gets the 100 torque that can be applied, and the full 400 torque available are used to generate tractive force. This is a direct increase in traction.


Yes, there are a million variables that come into play that make these simple numbers fluctuate, but the base principle remains unchanged. The best you can argue is that 2WD produces equal traction so long as maximum torque doesn't cause a wheel to slip. In that scenario 4wd would just redistribute the traction. In slippery stuff, you will have more traction, though.

 

Too early for my brain to comprehend this post

 

Early?! It's after 10! At least here it is. I've been at work for 5 hours.

 

Alright, I went through as much school as the next guy and I have never heard that definition of traction so, fair enough. In that case, 4x4 would in fact give you traction based on available friction at each wheel.

My only counter to that would be that if you polled the vast majority of the public most people would believe, just like me till just now, that traction, friction, and grip are all synonymous when talking about driving and wheels on the ground. So my other point in even starting the conversation is still valid, Joe Smoe off the street is probably confused when told he has more traction in 4x4 but can't stop any faster.

 

I'm dragging ass today, the only day I've had off in the last 2 weeks were to get the Tesla Monday.

 

You were making a semantic argument, and the only way to have a chance against a semantic argument is to get technical. So, I set about researching.

 

Rough. You resting up now, though?

 

Yep, off till Friday night. Hopefully this cold doesn't ruin my week off!

 

Ooof. It must be bad if Casey says it's too much.

 

It’s Sunday and I’m on a plane to Orlando for work
I don’t want to do any thinking today

 

Fair enough.

 

@T-Rex266

Why don't monsters eat ghosts?

Spoiler

They taste like sheet.

 

My brain can't comprehend this any time of day..
Tires?

 

Just had a fun thought about the 3rd gen Tundra. Not sure I should kick the hornet's nest with it though.

 

Thanks guys...