If you could tell the Chief Engineer who designed your Tundra to add one feature or accessory

I could not disagree more regarding the underseat storage , I waited forever for Toyota to give that back to us after it was taken away in the 07-21 models lol

 

@PNW Tundra Mike
I've noticed my Fresh Air button is off, but so is the Recirc Air button. Do you (or anyone) know if both are off, where is the air being pulled from? I can press one and it lights up, but not sure what the default is if NEITHER is lit.

 

That’s what she said.

 

What he said!

 

I miss the huge floor space in my F150. So make it removable.

 

My 1794 is like this as well. But then again, so have all the cars I’ve owned with heated steering wheels. If you leave it on long enough, eventually it all heats. But when it’s real cold and you first turn it on, there is a real big difference between the outer and inner part of the wheel.

 

I believe it blends both fresh and recirculated air when neither is lit. If it’s cool outside and neither is lit, the vent air gets much cooler when you select Fresh Air On. Likewise if you select Recirculate when it’s cool outside the vent air gets warmer. Our Venza, Tacoma, and now Tundra have all acted the same.

 

If that is so, how would you get back to that mode? Once you press one of the buttons, pressing it again doesn’t turn the light off, and pressing the other just turns that mode on. If that it what is happening, it’s a pretty crappy design to 1) not explain that in the manual, and 2) not provide any way to get it back to that mode other than by turning the truck off and then restarting it.

 

thank you for this.
no mention of using Toyotas Full Time 4wd system feature ?
assuming this is because Toyotas full time system is on all the time and affects mpg?

 

Here’s another one for the list…
Change the DTE mileage and gas gauge so that 0 means really 0 and E means empty. And the low fuel light comes on before then. Those should not be subjective terms. I don’t want DTE to be 0 miles to some indeterminate and highly variable reserve. And E means empty, not anywhere from 2-8 gallons left. The low fuel light should not come on after I hit 0-20 miles and the gauge is on E. It should come on when I have their definition of reserve, and the DTE should reflect how much more I can go before that’s gone. I understand the argument about keeping the fuel pump cool. But we’re not stupid. If the DTE says 20 miles and the gauge is touching E, the low fuel light should have already come on like every other car.

 

The buffer is there because people ARE stupid. Crawl under the truck and look how long the fuel tank is. If the fuel pickup is at one end and an incline tilts the fuel away from it, like a steep driveway or mountain pass, I guarantee there'd be some idiot blasting Toyota that the truck died with fuel in the tank. It prevents fuel starvation in "worst case" scenarios, and prevents the headache that idiots would cause for Toyota if it were down to the wire. Read your manual. The low fuel light tells you the approximate gallons that it will activate on, and they have the gauge and DTE set to try and prevent the stupid. They are idiot proofing for the lowest common denominator, not for people who have common sense. Why? Because commons sense people know that running that low is less than ideal in the first place, never hit 0 DTE, E on the needle, or see the fuel light purely because they are not wanting to push to the limit to see how stupid stuff can get.

 

I don’t think so. The Manual says on page 516 that it’s 3.4 gallons. But people on this forum with lots of Toyota experience have said it adjust to 10-20% of capacity based on your mileage. I consider that “highly variable”. The last time I filled up, DTE said 20 miles, the low fuel light had NOT come on yet, and I put in just over 30 gallons.

 

I get what you’re saying, and that’s why we have idiot lights. They're there to get your attention. But 0 means 0 and E means E. And I have read my manual. Page 516 says the low fuel light comes on at 3.4 gallons left. You go below that, you’re on your own…you’ve been warned. But I can’t trust that when on my last fillup, the gas gauge was touching E, DTE said 20 miles, the idiot light was NOT on, and I put just over 30 gallons in. I just want the idiot light to come on before 0 and E, not after. Like nearly every other car.

 

I still don't understand the issue. The DTE, E, and idiot light are not there for the non idiot. Why do you care when it comes on unless you are pushing it to the limit? Now that you know what it does; is it that hard for you, as a non-idiot, to just drive and fuel accordingly? If you have an idiot in your family/household that drive to E/light/DTE of 0 would you not rather that the truck covered their stupid and encouraged them to fuel before running out, or would you rather have to run a gas can out to said idiot?

 

In every car I’ve owned that had an idiot light, it came on before the gauge pegged E.

 

My biggest concern is that the idiot light didn’t come on before my last fillup, and I had less than 2 gallons remaining. What makes more sense is to have it come on when there’s a set amount of fuel remaining (manual says 3.4g), have the gas gauge reflect that, then use your average mileage to set the DTE.

 

That's how it should function. If it's not, take it in for a check up. There was a TSB for inaccurate gas gauges IIRC. You might just need a SW update to get it working like you want.

 

Actually, I’m trying not to. And I appreciate the discussion and different viewpoints. But on my 2023, my gas gauge shows E before the reserve light comes on.

 

Yeah, I do, which was the whole point of bringing it up. I just disagree with them using DTE and the gas gauge to reflect the point where I hit the reserve, and not the estimated miles until I’m empty and the actual fuel remaining.

 

The light should be based on the fuel in the tank, nothing else. If that's not how yours is working, get it looked at.

 

Do you happen to know the TSB number? I just tried searching and all I found was a reference to a TSB for inaccurate fuel gauge when on an incline. I haven’t experienced anything like that with my truck. I just had the truck in for the EPB reprogramming and they didn’t find any other outstanding recalls or TSBs for my VIN.

 

I do not. I just remember it being discussed a while back. Might have been the incline one. Still, the light should come on before you drop below 3 gallons, so it's not functioning correctly. You may be the one that gets that new TSB rolling for it!

 

And there's our Toyota TSB guru to the rescue. LOL

 

August 2023 build date. Dammit.
And I’ve been around long enough to anticipate the frustration of bringing a vehicle in to the dealership with a “new” problem for which there’s no bulletin on. Especially something that can’t be fixed with a wrench. I can see the invoice now…”customer states…” and “unable to reproduce issue”.

 

I do not envy the position you're in. Bring your own lube.

 

“if I'm gonna hurt that much, I'm gonna do it to myself”
-Lewis Black

 

Brighter Interior Lights, old eyes cant see $h*t with these lights. SR5 off road