Quick question about my front suspension

Hi guys, so I bought these shocks and coils https://www.suspensionlifts.com/sho...embled-coilovers-for-2000-2006-toyota-tundra/ I had a friend help me replace my breaks and at the same time I wanted to replace the front suspension. Well it turn out that I may already have these installed in my truck. I bought these to try to level out my truck. My buddy swears that they are the exact same since the shocks have the same part number(obviously because they are the same) I was trying to explain to him that the coils might be different since the PO could have used the stock coils and replaced the shocks. To me it seems like the truck is at stock height. Is there a way to know if the coils are stock or the OME coils that are on the new ones I bought?

 

Those are probably stock coils. The stock coils with the 5100 clip at the lowest setting only yields about 0.9" of lift depending on your original coil (yours appear to be non-TRD). If the shocks you have are still in good working order, you can simply have the coils compressed and the clip raised a few notches for more lift. Or, pull them, install your new ones and sell the take offs. How much lift are the new ones good for? Some report A LOT of lift with those. You may end up with a reverse rake, front higher than rear. May also need new UCAs for that much lift, otherwise alignment may be impossible. Your 2wd so no worries about CV angles. May have to lift the rear to match the new front lift.

 

If the OME coils are the 2885s, they'll lift you enough your ass will be sagging especially if 2WD. 2884 should have you just about level with 4WD, or still sitting a tad high with 2WD. 2883 is recommended if 2WD to for a small rake.

OEM coils often have paint marks on them, like you see here, but they could've rubbed off - it's something to look for on yours to know for sure, they may be on any side.

What notch/circlip are your currently installed 5100s set at?

 

Thanks Yes so I was planning on selling the ones that are on now, which are pretty new actually about 20k miles, the website says 1.5-3 inch lift so I guess 1.5 lift would be the lowest notch

 

They're at the bottom notch

 

I went through these same questions not too long ago, this helped me

 

If they're at the bottom notch, and the measurement from the center of your hub to the edge of your fender is 21.5" or less (and definitely if less than 21"), then you can rest assured what you've got on there is stock coils. Anything OME makes would have you 22" or higher.

And you really need to make damn sure to check which model# OME spring you ordered those with. Let us know. And also, is your truck 2WD or 4WD, V8 or V6?

 

2wd V8 and I ordered the shocks with the 2884 OME coils. The distance from the center hubs to the bottom of the fender is 20"

 

You're on stock springs. No doubt about it.

The setup you bought will get you a little higher than level up front, but *may* settle in to be level after a little bit of driving. Make sure you get extended swaybar links. These are great. If you find you're higher in the front, Icon's add-a-leaf kit or a 1" block in the rear should get you sitting proper again.

On the OME setup, with those lifted springs, stick with the lower notch. Don't try to lift from there.

 

Thank you guys, I was about to return them with a 15% restock fee so I will keep them now. Are the extended sway bar links a must?

 

Take before-install measurements, same as you just did, center to hub. Take after-install measurements.

If the difference is more than 1", you should strongly consider installing extended links. If over 1.5", definitely spend the $130 to get extended links. That set I linked is just the easiest/no frills one to install and has a solid reputation.

 

Duh for me on the 4WD/2WD question, I guess that's obvious in your last photo

If you want to do us all a favor, post your front and rear before/after lift measurements over here, along with a note that you installed 5100 w/OME 2884 springs, it'll help others figure out what they get: https://www.tundras.com/threads/how-big-is-yours-measure-up.46186/

And pop into your profile here to update the "Vehicle One Line Description" box with: 2005 AC 2WD V8
(I just noticed your signature has that info, which is helpful, but I totally missed it)

After install, since you'll probably net a solid 2" of lift, keep your eyes peeled for grease sling from your inner CV boots.

 

Got it! As far as the rear suspension goes, I was looking at the ATS heavy duty leaf springs. Would those give me the proper lift or too much? I do use my truck for work and load up easily 500lbs at a time

 

ATS HD springs gave my V8/4WD '06 AC almost dead-nuts 2" of rear lift. I would personally expect you to end up with almost the exact same stance you have today installing the OME-loaded 5100s and those ATS leaf packs, knowing you're also in an AC truck.

If you lift the rear, you'll also want to get a bracket to relocate the LSPV assembly to maintain proper braking. It's like $15 to get a bracket if you can't fab one up yourself.

 

So you're saying the leaf springs wouldn't do much?

 

Got it, thanks guys, my front sits at 20 inches up front and 21.5 inches at the rear with the 5100 Bilstein all around

 

I'm glad I came upon this conversation. Similar vehicle (2006 AC 2WD V8) and looking to level out the front suspension.

I was looking at OME 2884 with Bilstein 5100 shocks all around, keeping rear leaf springs stock.

I understand springs sag after a while but how much will they actually sag?

 

Please read the 'Suspension' section of this thread for everything you'll want to know before you go there: https://www.tundras.com/threads/so-you-wanna-buy-just-bought-a-1st-gen-tundra-eh.115928/

How much springs sag is variable based on what they've been thru in life, and how many miles. Impossible for anyone here to predict that.

 

@shifty` I actually did read all of that section (very helpful btw).

I guess I asked my question poorly. I intended to ask how much their suspension settled with 2884. But you're right; it really just depends on usage/age/condition of other components.

 

Numbers of typical lift/settle with OME springs is in the thread I linked, varies based on cab type and drivetrain type. I updated the suspension section within the last hour or two with a bunch of other helpful little tidbits. That post is a "living" document; always being updated as new info comes to light.

 

update on my own experiment. OME 2884 will lift more than level (slight nose up) on a Access Cab V8 2WD. I waited a few months to see if it would settle any lower but I decided to switch it back to the original springs for my dad's sake.

Photo with 2884 installed:

 

Were you able to grab the hub to fender measurement for reference in the height thread?

https://www.tundras.com/threads/how-big-is-yours-measure-up.46186/

 

Similar experience to what @2006 Tundra AC had with his AC 2WD V6, if I recall…

This is why I posted earlier: “If the OME coils are the 2885s, they'll lift you enough your ass will be sagging especially if 2WD. 2884 should have you just about level with 4WD, or still sitting a tad high with 2WD. 2883 is recommended if 2WD to for a small rake.”

2883, as originally mentioned, will get you close to level and potentially settle a bit under level, but still looking level from a distance. You’ll lose 1/2” - 3/4” up front, roughly.

 

I put the 2884 on mine and it is a bit above level but I don't mind it. If it settles with time, even better.

 

Lesson learned. For some reason I assumed what you said in the "Suspension" section of your thread was especially for V6 models, but V6 seem to be the exception rather than the norm.

But I'm sure my dad will be happy with it back at the stock height and since he tends to haul stuff with it, the factory rake is ideal.

 

I've gone back and updated that thread to be a bit more clear on lift expectations with OME. I've been wanting to do similar input with 5100 + Dobinsons, but haven't gotten to it yet, and we don't have as much user experience with them per se.

You're not quite at enough posts yet, but once you get to 50 non-spammy posts, you can list those OME springs in the 1st Gen Marketplace and maybe recoup some dollars.