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New Taco Vs New Tundra

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by RookieEP, May 21, 2023.

  1. May 25, 2023 at 10:38 PM
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    iiawah808

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    Idk…I think I want those seats.
     
  2. May 26, 2023 at 12:14 AM
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    I wanted a faster vehicle so I also bought a Chevy SS... because 4 door sedans with big V8’s are hilarious.
    Those seats do look pretty baller, being honest with myself and how I use a truck they’d probably be overkill for my use. Not a lot of high speed off-roading to be had in my AO.
     
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  3. May 26, 2023 at 12:59 AM
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    Great idea and great concept.... However, given the number of folks that are flat out being told to basically pound sand when they try to get basic QC issues sorted out (hell even a second key fob), why would I want to pay extra for a seat that has even more parts that need proper assembly, maintenance and replacement??? Surprised they are not remote tuned via the app and require a monthly service fee to operate :D
     
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  4. May 26, 2023 at 1:54 PM
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    The Tacoma back seats fold down for a flat floor. Do the Tundra seats do this yet ?
    He said 95% of owners don't tow over 5000 lbs. Thats why the target is 6400 lbs.
    up to 1700 payload. I figure its going to be 1200 -1300 on most of them which is almost like the Tundra.
    The only thing it is missing is a roll down window. Decent power in the bed ac and dc.
    Seems to me with the videos I have seen that it is very focused on truck utility and they want it to remain the world class leader.
    The 6 foot bed is like a Goldilocks size.

    https://youtu.be/Fh-s9O3EgRs


    tacoma back seat .jpg
     
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  5. May 26, 2023 at 2:42 PM
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    Now that feature (fold down flat rear seats) is a game changer; especially for those of us w/dogs!!!!
     
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  6. May 26, 2023 at 2:57 PM
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    IDk - but I think they may have something that would temp me out of my Tundra.

    Now the tricky part - do I sell the Tundra now while price is high - and wait for a Tacoma - or hold the Tundra and trade/sell when my allocation arrives ? Talked to local Toyota here - names on the list for a Tacoma Pro - we will see - unless this thing comes in at 65k plus sticker - it looks good.
     
  7. May 26, 2023 at 4:21 PM
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    the problem with the seats is that it only gives at most 7% benefit. for the roi, its not really worth it and you can probably find better seats aftermarket.
     
  8. May 26, 2023 at 4:24 PM
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    Tacoma Limited gets full time 4wd.
    This means the new 4Runner should also keep the Torsen diff. and full time 4wd.

    tacoma full time 4wd.jpg
     
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  9. May 26, 2023 at 4:37 PM
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    yeah thats why i have a 14 limited. full time 4wd with torsen.

    need it for work during the winter since i am on the road at 5am, usually before the highway plows are out.
     
  10. May 26, 2023 at 6:14 PM
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    Agreed on the 1200-1300 lbs of payload.
    95%? I guess, if we’re only talking about Tacoma owners. They chose not to increase the towing capacity because this limitation forces those that need to tow more than 5000lbs to do the ‘model walk’ and move up to a Tundra. It also keeps the weight of the Tacoma down in order to provide better fuel economy.
    World class leader in the small truck segment.
    If we didn’t feel the need to increase the size of our current travel trailer there’s no way I could justify getting anything larger or more capable than a Tacoma. I’d still be driving our 2012 and be shortly surpassing 300,000kms.
    My folks raised 3 kids and drove 4 door sedans (Plymouth Volare, Ford Granada, Chrysler Caravelle) until we were all in our teens. IMHO most people simply can’t justify owning a full size truck or SUV. Unfortunately we need the additional towing capacity and payload that the Tundra offers. The added bed length and fuel tank capacity are a bonus.
     
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  11. May 26, 2023 at 10:07 PM
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    I wanted a faster vehicle so I also bought a Chevy SS... because 4 door sedans with big V8’s are hilarious.
    The Tundra should have absolutely had the same Torsen transfer case as the LC300 as an option and standard on the TRD Pro.
     
  12. May 27, 2023 at 5:25 AM
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    If you are in the 5% of their study with your needs - it is what it is.
    Reality out my way I can tell you (Lake Simcoe- Muskoka - Haliburton) there are a lot of boats this time of year through fall.
    Mostly 18 - 20 ft bowriders and fishing boats - 3000 -5000lbs. Right in the sweet spot.
    I see a fair number of people moving these in some cases 20 ft Bowriders between lakes in smaller vehicles like CRV's and RAV4's. Yeah.

    What year is your Tundra ?
    What I am thinking is if the Toyota engineering team that designed the new Tacoma were the ones that worked on the new Tundra.
    I may probably be in one now. Outside of the shared Toyota parts like steering wheel - the different thought process between the two is pretty obvious.
    The Tacoma even with all this new tech and features still looks like an evolution to me.
    They did not want to mess anything up as it was the sales leader.

    I really don't need this feature but C'mon Toyota - why does the luxury Platinum Tundra have one button to open the tail gate driver side. The Tacoma has buttons both sides and it is a power tail gate up and down.

    I am assuming the TRD Pro guy is not for looks but capability. So the part time system is fine when offroading. I see the full time system more for the person that needs 4wd in a daily driver under changing conditions like winter highway. It should at least be standard on the luxury Tundra trims. jmo
     
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  13. May 29, 2023 at 4:33 AM
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    I am pretty sure the new Crewmax Tundra back seats can't be designed to fold flat due to the clearance needed for the motor for the roll down rear window. Its the reason the DC Tundra doesn't have a roll down window. Why then does the DC Tundra not have fold down seats like the Tacoma. Does the new Tacoma have more in back now over the DC Tundra?

    I have an 85 lb black lab. The back seat height has always been too high in the TRD version of my 2018 Tundra truck. He prefers one side of the floor. Its flat enough. I just toss his bed down there.
     
  14. May 29, 2023 at 5:02 AM
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    I replaced a ‘12 double cab Tacoma with a ‘23 double cab Tundra. While I never measured them for comparison, there was significantly more space in the rear seat of the double cab Tacoma. Therefore, it had room for the seat bottoms to be lifted up then the seat backs to be pulled down and laid flat behind the seat bottoms. The hard plastic seat backings was also a huge plus. The rear space in the 3rd Gen double cabs is hilariously small. What’s even funnier is that Toyota provided a seat belt for the middle passenger and yet anyone outside of a child or booster seat would not physically be able to place there legs between the front of the seat bottom and the rear of the center console. So, the rear seat backs in a double cab 3rd Gen would have to be incredibly shorter for them to be configured similarly to the Tacoma. I also suspect that the rear seats in a Tacoma weigh significantly more than the rear seats in a Tundra (4 bolts and 4 hinges) and Mike Sweers has repeatedly stated they had to remove mass from the redesign.
     
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  15. May 29, 2023 at 7:03 AM
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    [QUOTE="nodak67, post: 3199777, member: 9510"

    (fukking hate the tundra temp change switch)[/QUOTE]

    Totally agree. That whole bunch of switches above the center console is a cluster. They are hard as hell to read in daylight.

    What's
    up by the switches by my left knee too? It's stoopid in my wifes Rav, stoopid in the Tundra.
     
  16. May 29, 2023 at 7:06 AM
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    Insane torque for a Taco. You can't put that much weight on the hitch.
     

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