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Too much lift from Toytec kit

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by IgotSR5onit, Nov 15, 2022.

  1. Dec 16, 2022 at 10:15 PM
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    hahaha and probably cost him some beer to put it in lol
     
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    Diff drop is needed though to help with angles. Put it back on and you’ll see a better angle. Plus less stress on components. Diff drop with lift is a win win.
     
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  3. Dec 16, 2022 at 10:16 PM
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    thats one thing I've heard, when I had the drop in, I think the angles were around 10 degrees, and when I took it out I think it was at 12 degrees, might do another double check and throw it back in
     
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    Trust us. Put it back on. You have so might as well use it. Plus it’ll extend the life of your front drive shafts.
     
  5. Dec 16, 2022 at 10:22 PM
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    I also have the toytecs 2.5 with no front sway. If you off-road I recommend taking it off. Big difference.
     
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    not so sure about that from the research I've done, if nothing else, the diff drop only rotates the diff, it doesn't really drop it down to change angles

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47aat1tc6zw
    this is a decent video with research to back it up
     
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    He has it summed up correctly but what he doesn’t state is that high angle boots are more expensive and costly to put on labor wise. From experience with my Fj after I lifted it 2.5” both my inner boots started leaking. Not torn but they did start showing signs of rubbing, but leaking from the clamps. It’s very common after lift. I installed a diff drop and all was good till they actually ripped. As long as your lift isn’t extreme it wouldn’t hurt to throw it on to help prolong the life of your boots which will prolong the life of the joint. I honestly haven’t had issues or have had any friends have issues with a diff drop. But that vid is good basic geometry info like most his vids. Breaks down the geometry of suspension and what you’re really doing to your vehicle. I went through so many suspensions to figure out what really works. Wasted so much money. But it’s about a persons use of their vehicle. I like practicality and function over looks. But I have found out how to have both. But to each their own.
     
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  8. Dec 16, 2022 at 10:55 PM
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    yeah I agree, my truck gets wheeled, looks are a secondary, and I'd say I wheel it pretty hard, if my math is right, I'm sitting at apparently 3" of lift, I could go one clip higher and push around 3.5" I believe (to sit about level), but I'm worried about the actual boots tearing over anything else- so now digging into rabbit hole threads of what people have done
     
  9. Dec 16, 2022 at 11:02 PM
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    The thing I find here than on my FJ forums is most don’t wheel hard. I know these trucks aren’t the best for wheeling hence that’s why I have an FJ, but they are plenty capable.

    And what size tire you running? Just tire alone can get you that extra lift without compromising your axle angle.
     
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  10. Dec 16, 2022 at 11:05 PM
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    35x12.5, real problem is the length of the truck, slightly better entry angle helps overall with breakover etc etc- I'm not rock bouncing (generally), but its either high speed prerunner stuff, or slower crawling, but def more than your average tundra owner...
     
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  11. Dec 16, 2022 at 11:31 PM
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    Yup you got a land yacht with that long bed. But I run close to what you have. 295/70/18. Can’t really go much bigger unless I start chopping. But man do I love prerunning. Desert prerunning or dunes is sooooo much fun. I’ve been debating on softening the rear leaf pack to get better travel but then hauling my camping gear would be sacrificed. I’m at a neutral spot in my suspension and don’t know if I should just be content or start the long travel thing. Might just buy another Tacoma and do long travel in that. That way I have all my bases covered. FJ for trails and exploring. Tundra for camping and hauling. And Tacoma for fun and bashing.
     
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    Had this beast but dodge bought it back. Lemon 34439267-EF09-4C5C-BC49-5567F5353411.jpg
     
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    I’ll probably just leave the truck slightly raked for right now, it’s still taller than it was on the Eibach Coilovers I had on so really reason to crank them
     
  14. Dec 17, 2022 at 3:58 PM
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    Ive heard convincing arguments for keeping the preload the same from what I consider knowledgable folks. No regrets and no extra time taken to install. Plus with over 300 pounds of weight added to the bumper I wouldnt have much adjustment to play with to keep up with my 3in packs in rear.
     
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    Yeah, diff drop, carrier bearing drop and brake line drop. I went with 3in leaf pack in rear though. I didnt officially check the angle, but just by judging by looks they are sitting where Id expect them too.
     
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    Who’d you get the brake line drop from?
     
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    I ordered mine through Coachbuilder. There are several options to choose from out there that look nearly identical.
     

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