Hybrid mpg

I believe that enhancing power & torque vs MPG is more about how they designed the system to operate than the type of battery. I believe we could see better MPG if they programmed it to limit the total hybrid power, say, to the same as the ICE alone and then when battery power was available to throttle back the ICE by 48HP while electric motor pushes its 48HP.... or some proportional amount, to make up the difference. Maybe some clever aftermarket tuning to change the ICE throttle and turbo map and hybrid interface could accomplish that. What would be nice is if Toyota had a "super eco" setting like that built in, then when you towed or needed the extra oomph you could go back to normal.

 

Just a reminder, in a couple of years, they will introduce all TNG_F platforms as iForce Max Prime and Full Electric. That's where you'll see the mileage to improve. And hopefully the aftermarket industry jump on making an upgrade to the battery in the future to give us better range and even an aftermarket plug-in adapter. Who knows.

 

Maybe better industry wide MPG is on the horizon https://scitechdaily.com/mit-engine...-stronger-than-steel-and-as-light-as-plastic/

 

https://youtu.be/OFLTBPuedjk

Not a bad video at all. I know it’s not a Tundra hybrid but it helps put this whole debate in perspective. At least mine.

 

That was a great test. I live in a small island, in a small city and quiet hilly in some places with max of 100kph speed limit. Hybrid will be best suited for my needs, but the numbers on the non hybrid is really a step up from all my previous Tundras and current Sequoia. I just have to justify the premium cost of the Limited iForce Max from the SR5 Off-Road.

 

Yeah for sure. I think our current plan as of right now will be to hold onto the Tundra, get the 23 Sequoia and then upgrade my 22 for the Max. If all the numbers make sense ($ and mpg)

 

Not buying this test at all. I know he tried to follow the same procedures but that ridiculous 35 MPG for the Ford shows that his methods are questionable at best and that brings into question all the results he presents. The test needs to be repeated and the results need to be repeatable.

 

The current MPG on the the '22 Tundra is a no brainer. You'll save money just on fuel and alone. My Tundras/Sequoia with a lift and oversize tires average's 11-12mpg. If I can get a 19mpg after lift and oversize tires on non-hybrid, I will be happy.

 

I'd be happy for you also, but a lift and bigger tires only knocking down your combined mpg by 1mpg? Very doubtful.

 

No, sorry, it should be 17mpg.

 

Toyota built the new Tundra to tow very well and get decent mpg doing it. When you don't tow it still ain't going to become a Pruis but it will do much better than any v8. The Ford f150 hybrid can get pruis like mpg around the city (not 35 mpg unless u hyper drive it) but it will not tow or do work stuff and get as good mpg. Because I use my Tundra for Truck stuff the new 2022 is a massive improvement in ever category for me. I could care less about the batteries under the seat, give me the hybrid power and improve mpg while towing all day.

 

Hey guys,

I recently bought tundra 2023 1794 hybrid.
I’ve been driving on both highway and city like normal for a week now, but the concern is the mpg is very low like 13.4ish.
BTW its 4x2. Since it’s hybrid the mpg way lower than I expected.

I drive on normal mode, just wondering is mpg gonna be better in future or there is something wrong with my truck.

 

The hybrid was made for power not improved economy in this instance.

It might get better as it breaks in, or it might not. Depends on a lot of variables, some you can control: others you can not.

 

Coal Dragger is correct and a lot of people will be buying the hybrid thinking it’s a fuel saver. There’s also been a big difference in location. For instance, the highway speeds here in Texas are much faster than other states. I figured out a long time ago that unless you’re driving 55 all the time this truck loves fuel. I’ve had my truck since December and have close to 20k on it. I drive highway, city, mixed and no matter how it’s driven I can only average 16-17 MPG in my non hybrid. This truck absolutely hates to idle as well haha

 

1) break in period, it will climb with more use
2) what drive mode do you have it in? keep it in eco and drive it like a hybrid= better mpg
3) winter blend gas is already out in most states, worse MPG
4) check your tire pressure
5) totally depends on your drive. 80% of my daily driving is leaving our neighborhood and going to the store or downtown which has a lot of stop signs every few blocks, a big ass hill and traffic. that driving nets me about 13mpg on average due the distance and stop and go. Longer runs across town I see 17-mid twenties and one time over 30 running out to the burbs and back.

 

Like the original poster, I just picked up my '22 Capstone two weeks ago. So far I put close to 700 miles on her, averaging only 13.5 thus far in mostly local driving (70/30 - local vs highway).
I keep it in ECO mode; Most times I let the electric engine assist with take-offs from red lights; I do punch it occasionally - how can you not? The thing pulls like a freight train!; Tire pressure is good 42/43psi. I'll attribute it to the break-in period.

 

I have had a '22 platinum hybrid for a couple weeks now and get around 20 mpg on average. Cruising at 70 / 75 on the highway i get 22ish mpg.

 

Just for reference, my non-hybrid Platinum got about 15mpgs for about the first 5,000 miles. I now get 17-18. And when towing my 7,000 travel trailer I average about 9-10mpg. It is a towing beast, I have had it through the mountains of New Mexico and Colorado 7-8% grades. Tows like nothing is behind me. I can only imagine how easy it will be to tow with the hybrid.

 

Just providing some input, I get around 22 mpg. Most of my driving is freeway driving around 60mph. Depending on traffic in can drop down to 19mpg or so. If I do short distance city driving, I get as low as 12mpg.

 

I had the opportunity to speak with a very nice couple from Thunder Bay, ON yesterday who had a new 2023 1794 iForceMax with the advanced package and a set of stock sized Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac’s. They both loved the new truck and even with those heavy ass mileage murdering tires (I know I ran a set of them for 55K miles), he said he was averaged 14L/100K for that trip which comes out to 16.8 MPG. Said he left Thunder Bay, got fuel on the US side, drove all the way down Hwy 61 to Duluth, ran errands all day there in city traffic, and then drove back up to where I saw them in Grand Marais, MN still showing 200 miles of range remaining.

My old Tundra even with the current Falken Wildpeak AT3W’s would have probably averaged less than 14.5 MPG on the same drive cycle, probably a lot less if I had to run around all day in stop and go traffic.

The female half also said she loved how well the truck rides. Mentioned it multiple times.

So outside of Internet forum auto enthusiasts a sample of two real world owners randomly sampled by me looks pretty favorable.

If you are reading this and you’re the owner of that gorgeous Blueprint 1794 Tundra, thanks for humoring my questions!