General Supercharger Thread

Thanks! I already have the wire harness running to the passenger side. I’m sure that will work too?

 

This is the place that had it for $2300 on sale. Currently $2650. But it's also the Sequoia fit kit. Only thing it doesn't have is a short PVC hose. This appears to be the "updated" model number. The only one I can find for the Tundra specific is slightly over $2800 and has the earlier part number attached. the "updated" part number for Tundras can't be found.

https://parts.villagetoyota.com/p/Toyota__/TRD-Supercharger-Fit-Kit/69529158/PTR290C110.html

 

Yea that works also

 

rent a 5 or 6 lb pulley puller from your local auto parts store. they're free with a deposit!

 

"I do not want headers....I do not want headers....I do not..."

 

I used a harmonic balancer puller and put a ring of steel behind the pulley for it to grab onto



Also idk how you plan to reinstall the new pulley, I pulled the whole nose cone off and used a press since the bolt method that URD provided seemed janky as fuck and I thought it was gonna strip the shaft out. Good time to replace the coupler too.

 

When I did the Tacoma, I had pulled the entire supercharger off for other things. Place new pulley in toaster oven at 400 for idk, 20-30 minutes. Needs to be heated in garage close to s/c so it doesn't cool down between oven and s/c. Allows it to expand enough that it goes on A LOT easier with the URD tool

 

I often change concentric bearings on large electric motors at work which is the same concept. I use a puller similar to what snivilous used for removal, and when installing the new bearings we have a bearing cone heater. Let it sit on there until it’s 150 degrees above ambient and they slide on like butter. If you can get your hands on one of those to somehow reinstall, that would be the easiest. I’m sure they’re expensive to buy for yourself though.

 

I used to these swaps a lot on the supercharged cobras and Lightning’s. I’ll most likely use that same style puller and installed as they are press on also.

 

Same.

I'm sure they do great work but I just couldn't justify spending 5x more for the same job.

 

I'll be doing the install myself. Any tips and tricks from someone who installed their own?

 

Blow out / Vacuum out the area around the intake manifold before removing.
Buy a metric thread chasing kit and clean out the holes before you start installing the new stuff, mine were full of crap and the bolts wouldn't thread all the way in.

 

The bolts that hold the Magnuson down are a bitch to get a tool to. I feel like last time I pulled the blower it was less of a pain, but the first time I had to take an open end and bend it at like 60deg to fit around the bolt (nut?) and clear everything.

Also if you plan to do a pulley I would install that first. I would also swap the coupler out for one of the fancier aftermarket ones before installation, the coupler that came on mine was shot almost instantly after installing it, and pulling the nose cone with the blower installed is a bit of a bitch.

Everything else is pretty straightforward.

 

Is the Tundra Magnuson coupler the same spring loaded style they use on the Tacoma? If so ya I'll swap that out for sure.

 

I assume so? If the swapped one is the "solid" coupler then yes. All it is is a puck with 6 holes iirc. The one I pulled off I don't think had any springs though but it was awhile ago I did that.

 

Top is stock Tacoma Magnuson couple, bottom is aftermarket solid

 

I found some additional motivation to get the truck done, gonna be a shelby killer so I can park next to this fool with too much money at the Espresso & Exhaust meet lol

 

Superchargers online sells a redesigned coupler (with round holes vs oval holes that are prone to fail). I recall it being around $150 or so.

 

What gatorback belt is everyone running for the 2.30 maggy pulley?

 

Sorry y'all, I'm still on Piston rings:
https://youtu.be/OFtf7l0B3kM

https://youtu.be/1nkUuc-SJRM

https://youtu.be/gNbzvWs-DEM

 

Damn, more like TRD SLO. all that torque for what?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yWF0Ln7DG5w

 

I was laughing at a comment I saw on Reddit claiming the TTV6 was so fast, then I compared the Gen 2/2.5 specs. That is ok, truck has good enough pep IMO

 

I believe it is awful that Toyota chose not to outperform Ford....after all the blather about world class leading performance....or whatever they said.


I still hold firm to the notion they should have slapped the hybrid crap on the 5.7.

 

Ponder the hybrid 5.7...with a blower.

now, that would be class leading.

 

Give it five years or a little more. I think ICE to hybrid conversions will be fairly common.

 

It just seems like the hybrid isn’t worth it on this new truck. Essentially zero performance increase vs the non hybrid, lower towing and payload numbers due to the battery and motor weight, and only 1 MPG better. The Ford also has the ability to work like a giant generator. I’m just not sure the hybrid is worth the expense in the tundra. Seems like a flop to me.

Supercharged 5.7 reigns supreme in the tundra performance world!

 

Effortless acceleration, it behaves like a diesel more than ultimate performance truck, I think for most average driver, they "feel" the torque, I recall they had plans to make the TRD Pro more Raptor like during development but that got axed when few other projects that's related also got the boot.

Keep it in mind too that all the Wildpeak AT3 comes on the new Pro is not the same as the standard AT3W, they are Toyota specific, they are lighter and have much shorter tread depth to help with mpg rating.

There were aftermarket "hybrid" system before , one was called Vonnen http://vonnen.com/news/ , the system is do-able but it'll be a very complicated system, and probably little to no fuel savings, with minimal performance gain, a hybrid set up works best when the ICE is in atkinson cycle, the 2URFSE (LS600H) can do it, and I believe there were in fact mules running that set up but I think high costs lead them to be axed as well.

 

They ( Toyota) should have could have gone a couple different directions!!

 

RE: Tundra iForce Max. Great points about the Tundra. Early reports say it tows like a dream with the Hybrid set up; it is definitely not optimized for MPGs but I think Toyota was pretty clear about that up front. If it had a battery only mode the range was calculated to be in the single digits on the current battery.

RE: Aftermarket hybrid upgrade. Vonnen was one of the first out of the gate with a "mass market" system (for the mass market of specific Porsche models ) but the tech has been around a while.

They way they've used the pancake motor its basically equivalent to eMeth(a finite temporary boost). It was never intended to be for fuel savings as most traditional hybrids are categorized.

The low battery capacity, no regen braking, and as you point out ICE motor isn't optimized for efficiency are major drawbacks of this system if they were trying to go for fuel savings.

Even if the performance gains are temporary the numbers are fairly respectable 5.0sec to 3.6sec. For a bolt on system the design is fairly simple, looks reversible and not overly intrusive. It looks like its a intermediary launching pad project to me.

For the time being the hybrid space seems primarily focused on zero emissions (full conversion from ICE to EV), it is growing rapidly with an explosion of innovations.

The group to hit the market with a completely bolt on kit for below $10K (w/installation) will probably make a killing if they can get their product dialed in.

 

Should've, could've, those words costs millions if not billions in automotive world, much like the "small" 4.5L duramax that was being worked on back in early 2000's, GM even showed a concept back in 2007 ( https://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/29/sema-2007-chevy-suburban-hd-z71-diesel/ ) , that project was so close before it was axed, at that year's SEMA, toyota also showed a concept Tundra with dually and Hino's 8L diesel, I recall there was serious thought about bringing in the 1VDFTV (4.4L diesel) as an "HD" model with boxed frame throughout.

At low speed driving with low load, it's battery only, I've had one sneaked up on me with that UFO sound only to scare the bejesus out of me.

I don't think we will ever get a swap kit for below $10k, just material you are probably looking at $15-25k , you can probably realistically make swap kit with cradles that will place the battery pack between front and rear motor kinda like how F150 Lightning is built, and run the new e-axles that is just a solid axle but with electric motor as third member, I do see that as something picking up steam since that's how most EV commercial vans are built now.