2022 Owners: Do you miss the v8?

Driving experience is a whole different subject. You have 400 horsepower in a Volkswagen and 400 horsepower in a minivan of course they will drive different. I was simply stating I thought it was funny how people word it as "I miss the V8 power" but there is more power in the new V6.

 

It’s all so much conjecture on the longevity piece. I have a 21 tundra have potential lineup for getting a 22 and only considering it because of the miles per gallon. but unless they give me close to what I paid for my truck and sell me the 22 for MSRP I wont be considering it. Also the variations are so limited as to how they’re coming and I’m not gonna do it unless it’s just the right configuration. i’m also wrestling with the fact that the rear bumper set up sucks, there are no caps being made for them yet and side boards along with no tow hooks.

 

The problem with the Tacoma is not the transmission, it’s the engine. The 3.5 doesn’t have any low end torque. On paper, it makes more power than the 4.0 liter but it’s peak torque is at higher rpm and it only makes something like 180~190 lb-ft at 1500 rpm without needing to enrich the fuel mixture.
The Tundra on the other hands has plenty of low end torque, much more than the outgoing V8. Boost pressure is required to make that torque but the boost comes quickly at most cruising speeds.

 

All will be well and good for the new model as long as all stays well and good with the new model.

I will only believe it though after it proves to be reliable as they have in the past.

Time takes Time

 

If it wasn't such an ugly truck I would've considered it but my 17 will stay with me till it or I die.

 

I like to see the test results for towing in death valley with both engines! Anything melting under the hood with TT?

in general tow with the V8 and pop up the hood and it's amazing you don't feel much heat. Turbo engines on the other hand you can BBQ on without even towing ...

That's my only concern if I'll ever have to upgrade my Tundra.
At one point I was considering F150 before buying the Tundra but only the V8 (5.0 L?) and not the smaller V6 Eco-boost.

Op, I would miss the sound but not the heat.

 

I don’t miss it one bit. The technology they use today in every part of these vehicles, all modern vehicles, makes the old school stuff just noise. Turbo lag is basically zero and they’re built to work. Yes they have some minor issues, but all of the brands do. People (mostly who don’t even own a 3rd Gen) keep whining about the wastegate issue, yet the total number of confirmed cases is really low. Other people cry about V6 TT but they’ve never even test driven one.

The best advice I can give is test drive one and get a feel for yourself. The only thing I’m learning is if you want something specific, you’ll have to order it. Even then it’s not a guarantee it’ll show up that way. My only opinion/complaint is the MPG is not what they advertise. If you’re used to getting crappy fuel mileage then the third Gen will be an upgrade in efficiency. If you’re coming from another brand then you might not like the outcome.

Otherwise, I absolutely love this truck and can’t wait to see what the hybrid Max does. I may have to upgrade

 

Anyone who thinks this needs to see a recent Pickup Plus SUV Talks Youtube video - he tested the new Tundra, F150 PB, Chevy Baby Duramax, Ram Hemi with identical towing loops with roughly 7000lbs IIRC. Diesel hands down was the best engine - but the Tundra V6 was second. And the Ram Hemi is better than the Tundra 5.7 (I have both and the 8 speed does wonders) so it's pretty clear cut the new V6TT is an improvement over the 5.7 in every way except sound.

Toyota has surprised me with the tuning of the V6TT - I thought for sure it would be maxed out on efficiency, but it sure looks based on Youtube tests they targeted towing as the main target for the new engine

 

A word about the MPG. Turbo engines usually give you the option of better mpg if you want, but you have to be really careful and feather the throttle, where turbos are barely spooling.

If you have a lead foot and demand the peak power all the time, do not expect great MPGs.

Depending on my driving style, my average mpg can vary anywhere between 14-18MPG combined on the same routes.

 

Happy to. I plan to keep the truck for at least 10 years. I expect some growing pains, but I believe the Toyota reliability will continue. It's not like this engine is entirely new. Toyota has been using a variation of it in other vehicles for years and is far from inexperienced with turbos. I have a feeling that not only will the V6 do everything the V8 can do, it will do it better with the extra power and torque.

I could have bought a leftover '21. Didn't see the point. Other than the power and bloated size, the 2.5 Gen trucks are a step down from my 1st Gen in my opinion. The '22 is actually a step up in all things; comfort, tech, storage, payload, power, fuel economy.

 

My dealer gave me what I paid for my 21, plus threw in tonneau and skid plate and a 5 year 120,000km warranty, and charged MSRP. I made like hay and took it. Especially since they have been trying to fix a misalignment issue on my 21.

You have all the power in your trade right now. Don’t expect less.

The 21 is destroying my bank account in fuel economy at less than 12mpg. So any increase will be welcome. New truck should be here next weekend.

 

That’s why the grill is so big… everyone is complaining about it being ugly but it’s that size to cool down the powertrain even in Death Valley. I don’t see this powertrain having any issue towing up the 10% grade at the west entrance of DV but I wouldn’t want to have to exit back that way with a heavy trailer.

 

Get long tube headers and race exhaust from @dirtydeeds

v8 : 430 hp 490ft lbs

v6: 389 hp 471 ft lbs

v8 wins for much much less than a new truck

 

By that logic you should've modified your previous vehicle instead of buying a 5.7 tundra. Arguing modifications vs a new vehicle are pointless unless you buy new things solely based on power/price. Comparing anything modified to stock is not remotely an apples to apples comparison, what's on the showroom now vs then is all that really matters.

 

~6% more torque than the 5.7l. Peak torque is at 2400RPM vs peak at 3400RPM for the 5.7l.

 

Uh huh. My in laws have a 2014 Ford EcoBoost that they use to tow a travel trailer. Truck has north of 150,000 miles on it. So 8 year old Ford TTV6 is still running strong, you think Toyota can’t manage similar results?

You’re stuck in the past.

 

Even accounting for modification ability is still valid. How much money does it cost to gain significant power with one engine vs the other if modifications are on the table.

A well designed turbocharged engine will win the $$$/hp gained argument every time in the budget range below the cost of adding forced induction to a naturally aspirated V8.

The 3UR-FE doesn’t wake up and make significant power gains until a blower gets put on top for over $5,000. It shouldn’t take much more than a $700 tune and willingness to run 91 octane for the V35A-FTS to make another 60hp with some fancy new 1’s and 0’s. For under $5,000 at some point aftermarket turbos will be attainable as well.

 

1.) Not everyone wants to listen to long tubes and a race exhaust droning on and on when it comes to road trips or daily driver duties. Plus making yourself known to everyone around that you’re a douchebag with a loud truck is never a good look. A sports car or muscle car with a rowdy exhaust, big cam, heads, and the nuts to back it up is one thing, a pickup truck with a loud exhaust is just lane 99% of the time. The stock cam timing for a truck is never going to sound like anything special and just ends up sounding like flatulence. That shit is for Ram owners with flat bill hats and vape pens.

2.) Assuming tuning support comes out for the V35A-FTS it’s probably going to make a lot more power gains, for a lot less money than the cost of long tube headers, and a new exhaust. Plus the V35A-FTS will still be quiet and not annoy the neighbors with douchebag sounds.

 

I let a coworker with a 2.5 Gen drive my truck because he’s been on the fence and he was blown away by the response and power. Plus the back window rolls down again

 

Done

https://burgertuning.com/products/jb4-for-toyota-tundra

 

And just like supercharging, how many people are actually going to do that? What kind of numbers will the V6 turn out with a tune and performance parts? We'll have to wait and see, but I bet before long a modded V6 will continue to crank out higher numbers than the V8.

 

didn't we all want the most obnoxiously loud vehicles once in our lives? high school through college? we thought it made us look cool. now that our brains have a few more wrinkles we just wanna save a few bucks and fine tune our trucks for efficiency and performance

 

That's the deal I got...or will be getting when it gets here. '22 Limited TRD OR. They game me $3K more than I paid for my '19 Limited TRD OR used (and I felt that was a decent deal) 2.5 years ago and that covered the ridiculous $3k mark-up. Not really a great deal, but for 70K less miles and a warranty I'm satisfied. Like you, I was really picky about what I wanted and found the exact truck I had spec'd. I guess we'll see how happy I am when it arrives...in 6-8 weeks (hopefully).

 

I'd have preferred they had just added the v-6 to the old body style.

 

We’re getting older and wiser. Plus, some of us can and will eventually have an obnoxious toy of some sort.

 

Fake news lol. You couldn't pay me to own a 22.

 

Not me. I've never liked or wanted a loud vehicle. LOL.

 

I've never understood driving a particular truck simply because of the way it sounds. I like my v8 because it is time tested, not because of how it sounds. But I also appreciate the stock exhaust. It's quiet enough for me. Agreed that v8s are going away over time. Feels like owning a piece of history, lol.

 

Correct.

Loud, lumpy idling, track toy with enough power to make your palms sweaty and scare the shit out of you and make you breath hard like you’ve been in a fight once in awhile. A car that forces you to become a better driver lest it murder you = cool and manly.

Loud truck just for the sake of being loud and drawing attention to yourself = high schooler bullshit. No one is impressed.

 

I have indeed driven one; and it's faster and smoother than my current truck.

It's also got more issues to work though, and being as my truck is paid off, it'd be probly a $12k or so loan if I were to trade mine in, for what I want (SR5 CrewMax w/TRD Off-Road package). I don't want more and smoother power enough to pay an extra $12K. *shrug*

There's also the question of need/capability. I drive mine all the time, but not for long distances; and the MOST I've ever towed with mine is a 20' trailer, maybe 2x a year. My old F150 5.0L could handle it. My current 2020 handles it just fine; so I have no need to go obtain a $12K loan just so I can do all of the above...somewhat smoother and faster than I currently do.