Overhead console swap

I tried searching but could not find the answer to this:

does a console with the compass and temperature work with a SR5 that didn’t come with it ?
This is the item I’m looking to purchase

I took down the console in my truck to replace the bulbs with LEDs and there’s a loom for power but I’m not sure if it would power the more advanced console

thanks guys

 

To answer your question directly, yes, you can power it from the map light wires.

If I may make a suggestion, if you want temp and garage door (Home link) options, get a Gentex mirror with auto dim and all of that built in. It's cheaper. Also, do you have a sunroof or would you then have buttons without a sunroof?

 

If you have a regular cab or access cab, the answer is NO. The headliner is different, and the "roof wire" is different.

If you have a double cab, the answer is POSSIBLY. There's special wiring to support the temp sensor which is mounted around the radiator support - it'd be worthwhile to see if you have the sensor already.

If you have the double cab and don't have the wiring, there is a replacement roof wire you can get. I have the harness, snatched it up on eBay when I thought I may want to embark o I think it runs around $250. I'd let mine go for less if you need it. But it only includes the wiring to the bulkhead behind the instrument cluster, and I don't think it has the stretch for the temp sensor.

 

Ahh, thank you for the suggestion, the mirror is a good idea. I don’t have sinroof, those buttons would’ve just been blanks basically. I’d be ok with that if it meant having temp & compass

 

I have a Double Cab, I’m gonna go check for that radiator support for the wiring right now

 

Could you look at these pics and possibly know if I do have that temp sensor? I didn’t know where to look

 

We have a lot of "one post wonders" who come here to ask the overhead console question and then leave, never to be seen again. Like this. Hopefully you'll stick around after.

The pigtail you're looking for, if pre-wired, would be roughly as shown in this thread and you'll need the sensor if not already installed which I give the part number for in the 2nd reply of that thread. The wiring should be one green and one grey as seen in this post.

For the mirror, you may want to check this thread as a precautionary tale, and also ... know you may or may not have the correct power wiring in the headliner to support the other console, but everyone else except one person I've seen has had it so far.

Good luck.

 

Thank you thank you thank you! This is very helpful as my power connection only has the 3 wires as well… if it wasn’t a plug and play thing I wasn’t going to do much to get the console fitted. Thanks for providing this info it showed exactly what I needed to know

 

Hi, just thought I’d give an update . I went with a Gentex 177 mirror. It was a bit of a learning curve on how to install it but thankfully the eBay seller was super helpful

 

Awesome, thanks for checking back in. So, I'm seeing 2 pairs of wires coming down there, 1 red/black pair, 1 translucent pair (spkr).

I take it one pair is bringing power and ground to the mirror (red/blk), the other is bringing temp gauge feed (clear)?

Curious, is your power feed always-on, or tied to accessory power?

Where'd you pull power from, and how?

 

Yes that’s correct, I had some spare speaker wires and used different colors as to not get confused. But yeah, one set (black/red) is for the temperature probe and the other is bringing in power.
Power feed is not always on, only when acc is on in the ignition switch.
I added a circuit to the fuse box with a special cable that came with the kit for hardwiring my dash cam. Then I T-tapped that cable with the power supply cable to the mirror, grounded it and it worked.
I had struggled to find a good place to tap into elsewhere.
I tried some ACC cable near the ignition switch but my ignition engaged earlier so I undid that real quick. Then I dove into adding a circuit to fuse box and that was the cleaner safer way.

 

Got it. I'm assuming the dash cam wiring kit is using an add-a-circuit type product that stacks off a fuse in the fusebox. That's essentially where I'm at now, except my mirror wants both ACC and constant power. I think the constant power is for the garage opener to be always-on, accessory power for the compass, so it's not creating parasitic draw staying lit all the time.

One of these days I'll get off my ass and do a quick 3-wire run up to the overhead console area via A-pillar. I ran out of Tesa tape, and I'm still trying to decide on wire, whether to terminate to a roof bulkhead so I can add other stuff later like a rear-facing "dash" camera, etc. (not sure what you'd call a dashcam pointing backwards, clearly it's not on the dash anymore...)

 

Yes, exactly. And the ACC is for both the compass and the display LED?

This is the kit:

Link:

$18 Dash Cam Hardwire Kit, Mini USB Hard Wire Kit Fuse for Dashcam, Plozoe 12V-24V to 5V Car Dash Camera Charger Power Cord, Gift 4 Fuse Tap Cable and Installation Tool（11.5ft

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FXJD8W1?ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details

Any objections to utilizing 2 add-a-circuit cables, one for ACC, with an ACC fuse; and one to feed the constant with a constant fuse for the garage opener

?

 

I mean, this is ultimately what I'd originally planned to do: 1 add-a-circuit for ACC, another separate one for always-ON. I talked about which ones I'd planned to tap from over here.

I prefer Bussmann's products for any fused products and add-a-circuit type adapters, spendier, but high quality, and there's a few options available, see here AutoZone and others usually have some stock from Bussmann for various things.

Just know, there's a specific way you need to use those products, there's a right and a wrong way. I think maybe this post covers that point in a nicely outlined way.

 

Thanks for the handy links. I did look into all those points with the orientation of the add-a-circuit and my hot side on the fuse, which i checked with a volt-meter (worth its weight in gold, wow i should've gotten that years ago) and I SHOULD HAVE DONE IT CORRECTLY, but i will double-check later today as maybe i had a brain fart and flipped it.

 

Yes, I checked and I did it right. The left pole of the fuse socket is the one drawing power and so it is oriented the correct way. added a pic of my t-tap for powering the mirror and of the “final product”

 

My Dad has a 2006. He has the overhead assembly.
His is acting up and needs help.
I wanted one also, but went with a Gentex mirror.
Mine works very well.
I have seen it as low as 7degrees, and as high as 110.

 

I just installed mine. Bought A $30 dollar sensor and found on the front right horn that here was an unused plug that seemed like it was the correct harness for the Ambient temp sensor.
What the kicker is, after plugging it in, the garage homelink works, but I don't have either compass or temp display.

 

Did you check the pin outs between the plug and your mirror? They're not all the same. If homelink works, I'm going to guess ground and constant 12V are wired up, but not switched 12V. The temp sensor has two wires for the feed, but it also has to work with your specific mirror model.

 

I should point out, I was referring to an overhead console, I figured it would be plug and play but unfortunately,it seems I'm missing a few wires from the harness that feeds from the fuse block.

 

Am I missing something. They look a lot more expensive on Amazon.

 

In case you wish to check the temp sensor and you have a volt/ohm meter, you could check the resistance of sensor.

at these temps, ohms should approx be....
50F 2.68-3.3
60F 2.1 - 2.6
70F 1.6 - 2.1

Also, if there are no wires in the console plug O 8 pins 4&5 that's your temp issue.
4 = Blu/W
5 = Blu/R

 

This is incredibly helpful! Thank you! Do you have the wire and pin spec for the compass as well? Just curious if I could just knock it out in one fell swoop.

 

Before offering more than you need, would like to ask a few questions.
As a side note, the compass is located as part of the overhead console, hence no wires. If you do get ambient temp and compass working, there are proper calibration procedures for the compass that you will need. If needed, those instructions can be posted.

1)What mdl # of overhead console do you have
2)How many of the wires listed below do you have at the O 8 connector, truck side not console side.
3)Humor me Please and push the Mode button thru it's 4 settings, what are the results....one setting has display off !

 

I've tinkered with the calibration and nothing happens whenever I hit the E/M buttons or Mode buttons, however if I hold the homelink buttons, then a little house appears. So my initial assumption is that it's working. (Assumptions being the mother of all eff-ups, leading me to this predicament, lol).

 

Go on eBay and look up a Gentex 453 with homelink. No need to buy new/overpriced. Mine came from a Pathfinder. Just get it with the temp sensor, or know which vehicle it came from so the proper replacement can be purchased if you want that feature.

 

Yeah, you're lacking the full wiring. IIRC, the temperature probe is typically two wires, one light green, one grey. All I see you having there is ground (whte/blk stripe), and I'm guessing that's red with green or black stripe (power?) and I dunno what the black (maybe striped) is, but the EWD would tell you for sure.

 

As @shifty`mentioned, you are wired for Personal Light only and lacking wires for temp sensor as mentioned and shown in pic above....4 Blu/W & 5 Blu/Red.
Since you had the plug at passenger horn area for temp sensor, I'm going to assume that says you have the 14 pin IA7 connector at driver kick panel, given it's also the connector coming from E/G bay for horn, heater relays etc.
Bottom line, it would not take much trouble to run the 2 conductors the rest of the way to the Overhead Module for Temp to work.

 

I'd only add, you may need to confirm the temp sensor provision is up front. It should be along the radiator support, just to the left of the passenger side horn as you're looking at the front of the car, i.e. the side towards the tire. If the wiring is there also, you may need to install the sensor itself. I have a part number around here somewhere. Granted, I also have the entire roof harness for your truck, complete but I doubt you want to know what they cost.

 

Good point and he confirmed in his first post up above he had connector at horn. He's at least that far along.