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Power when brand new

Discussion in '2.5 Gen Tundras (2014-2021)' started by PA452, Jun 16, 2021.

  1. Jun 17, 2021 at 5:50 AM
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    15whtrd

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    Do you think the 2011 just felt like it would smoke the other ones, or do you think it would all be similar in the quarter mile? Obviously if they all have the same set up.
     
  2. Jun 17, 2021 at 5:51 AM
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    Same. Tow haul is too sensitive for me. Have never driven one of the older 3rd gens as this is my first tundra but mine will get up and go whenever needed in normal drive. Definitely feels peppier than my 2018 5.3 Silverado
     
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  3. Jun 17, 2021 at 6:15 AM
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    It’s definitely rocket mode on my 2020. I easily chirp the wheels pulling out from stops hence why I don’t use it all the much. It maybe Toyota made some simple tweaks to up the mpgs by a hair…for when it’s no engaged.
     
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    This. I mean, if I get on it, I can chirp the tires withOUT TH mode engaged on my 2020; I can flat lay rubber down a bit with TH and/or 'beast mode.'
     
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  5. Jun 17, 2021 at 7:12 AM
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    Tow/haul was pretty sensitive in my '18 as well. You had to be very light-footed to not chirp the tires when starting from a stop. Even pulling a trailer I'd have to go easy on it. I'd mostly only use it when pulling a trailer. It was also nice on the rare occasion I'd want to pass someone on a two-lane.

    I thought maybe it was possible they have it programmed to go a little easier on it during the break-in period, but I don't know how likely that is.
     
  6. Jun 17, 2021 at 7:15 AM
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    No, I’ve still got it and it’s definitely faster off the line by a wide margin. There’s a big difference in both the takeoff, and hitting the passing gear. Tow/haul mode on the 2017 is close to the same as the 2011 without it, but not quite, and it feels smoother in the Gen2. The 2011 has tow/haul mode also. Haven’t really used it, but I’d assume it has the same effect.
    There’s other variables involved though. The 2011 is a DC 2wd with no lift and smaller tires. My 2017 is Crewmax, with a 3/2 level and bigger tires, so it’s not exactly apples to apples. That said, I did test drive a Gen3 with the same setup as the 2011, and it was noticeably more sluggish.
     
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  7. Jun 17, 2021 at 12:08 PM
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    Toyota updated the engine / transmission tune in 2019 , better shift mapping and throttle response . Plus the OP having a new truck the transmission adaptive tables still are learning his driving style .
     
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  9. Jun 17, 2021 at 2:40 PM
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    Being left handed.....quite frankly I'd like more left handed engineers involved.......
     
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  10. Jun 17, 2021 at 2:41 PM
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    I actually think my 2021 DC is quicker and more responsive than my 2019 DC. Same exact setup….:monocle:
     
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  11. Jun 17, 2021 at 4:02 PM
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    My ‘21 feels about the same as my ‘19. The biggest difference is the ‘21 consistently got about 3-4 mpg less than the ‘19 before I upgraded the tires. Other than that, it’s pretty much the same truck as far as engine/transmission.
     
  12. Jun 17, 2021 at 7:25 PM
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    I figure by the time it fully adjusts, and as I get used to it, fair chance I'll have forgotten exactly what my '18 felt like.
     
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    I don't believe vehicles "learn" each individuals driving styles. I could be wrong though. Never known a vehicle to think to itself, "hey this guy likes hard acceleration off the line, let me adapt myself to his driving habits". The motor and trans all come the same with the same throttle and transmission programing from the factory. A young buck's heavy lead foot isn't gonna make his 21' Tundra any faster then grandpas light foot in his 21' Tundra. Same motor, same trans, same computer
     
  14. Jun 17, 2021 at 9:13 PM
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    Pretty sure it's a thing.

    My 2007 Tacoma was the first vehicle that I was told would do that; it was a manual transmission. When the original battery died, it was like driving a different truck when I hooked up the new one. It all reset to factory. The difference was much more noticeable with a manual transmission.
     
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  15. Jun 18, 2021 at 4:27 AM
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    I'm not sure it does either.

    But just to be safe, I make sure to floor it at least a couple times a week so it knows who's boss!
     
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  16. Jun 18, 2021 at 5:17 AM
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    Google " adaptive transmission shift strategy " its been a thing since early 2000's
     
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