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Bump stops for 1st gens

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by Ludogg808, Nov 4, 2020.

  1. Nov 4, 2020 at 10:02 AM
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    Been checking a few out. All priced over 100 bucks

    https://www.autozone.com/suspension...-2in-all-purpose-bump-stop-2-piece/355403_0_0

    then I saw these. They have a cheaper black pair too for 14.99

    way cheaper and seem a lot better than stock. Any one try these out? Any other suggestions that won’t break my bank? Just spent 1000 on old man emu lift and another 600 on spc uppers. Don’t wanna skimp on the bump stops but also don’t wanna spend another 200 bucks. Any suggestions on bump stops for the rear also?
     
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    If you want quality bumps, you’ll spend a little bit. Or scrimp and skimp. I have these: I have ‘em both front and rear but they might be different part numbers. Wheelers could tell you.
     
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    Those poly ones might work but not sure what thread is on the bolt. Worst case you can buy the right bolt and be dollars ahead. Might need to cut a tier or two off the small end for clearance.

    Superbumps work well but at stock height I don't think they will fit. You would be riding on the bump stop all day and that wouldn't be enjoyable.
     
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    Then you'll ride with superbumps just touching, my truck is right about at 2" lift up front.

    The poly might fit easier then. Worth a try for under $20.

    Screenshot_20201104-181602_Gallery.jpg
     
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    Durobump also makes them for our trucks but they are expensive.
     
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    Slick ill post pics when I slap em on
     
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    my only gripe with poly bushings is theyre so hard, if you hit them, it feels like the control arms going to go through the frame.
     
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    they do? i dont see them on the website. or are they the 4runner/tacoma ones?
     
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    Another option is call SOS performance. Good company to deal with very helpful.
    They have items they dont list on website and can customize.

    I have only used them a couple times. Needed to lower the rear and front just a little. Not as much as what on their website kits.
    They could custom make what I wanted and reasonable price. I remember they had the screw in stops for our rear. Not on website.

    Maybe worth a call or email.
     
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    Go to SDHQ's website. They are an authorized dealer and should have them in stock.
     
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    These should also be compatible with 1st gen sequoia ?
     
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    Fronts yes. The rear would be different since they're coil springs, you might be able to use 4runner for the rear but call them and ask before you order.
     
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    Update: you gotta retap the hole for the bumpstops from autozonez no go for me. Going with durobumps up front and timbren rear. Those look nice and cushy lol. Now off to search for threads on some heavy load leaf packs
     
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    Did you ever get them installed?

    Ever since I got the lift , If I hit any ledge at high speed I bottom out in the front or if I go down a driveway and the road dips up sharply if I go to fast it will bottom out.
    I never upgraded my bumpstops and am thinking of going with Durobumps all around, just wanted to see if that fixed the problem for you?
     
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    Sounds like maybe you have the wrong springs? or need stiffer springs? My truck never bottoms out on bumps. Really have to be jamming along to get it close to doing so.
     
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    I have 5100 Shocks with the Dobinson springs that were recommended with my front bumper.
    Here is a picture of my stops.

    I also have Freedom offroad upper arms. So you dont think it would be bumpstops?
     
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    I had the same issue after installing the freedom offroad UCAs. Then I had Rancho quicklift shocks/coils and it would bottom out just like you are describing. I switched to ICON coilovers with the 700lb springs and that corrected the problem. The freedom UCAs apparently allow more travel than the factory UCAs. I would try moving the springs up a notch on the 5100s.
     
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    Wow I wish I would have known that before I bought the Freedom Offroad UCA,
    This is the setup I have here ---DOBINSONS
    I am pretty sure they are at least 700lb springs, I was told if I went up a notch it would ride really rough since the springs are adding about 2" in height at the bottom notch.

    So bumpstops is not the problem if its allowing the LCA to go up further? Did you install aftermarket bumpstops with your setup ?

    Your problem was fixed with icons and just setting the spring higher? does it ride rough?

    Thanks
     
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    Yea, I had no idea either until I did my first test drive and was like "what the hell" after the first couple of times it bottomed out (I live on a rough road so it was noticeable immediately). I had enough dirt/dust on the LCA to see where the rear bumpstop was impacting. I did not measure beforehand (because i did not expect a change) but I bet the truck was at least a 1/2" lower in the front after installing the UCAs.

    Ended up driving it like that for about two months while waiting on the Icons and other parts. It isn't my daily driver so no big deal but was really irritating on a hunting trip in the mountains where it bottomed out constantly. Had to really pay attention and slow down.


    I installed the Icons with spacers (1/2" drivers, 1/4" passenger) to correct the drivers side lean so I did not have to increase the pre-load on the driver coilover. Truck rides great but I pretty much replaced the entire suspension front and rear along with wheels and tires so it is much improved overall. I did install durobumps at the same time as the Icons but I don't think they have impacted at all since the change on the same road/bumps it was bottoming out before on.
     
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    OK, I will try them on the 2nd notch and add the spacers , Where did you get the spacers to level it out?

    Also, you say you never even hit your bumpstops now?

    Thanks for the info
     
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    I’m with the Original Springs (TuRD 4x4 Springs) and 5100’s on all corners. I haven’t hit my front original bump stops on the LCA in forever. This is City/Highway driving and a few speed bumps here and there.

    On the rear axle, even with about 1200lbs in the bed she will only bump if I hit a hard dip at speed. She sits at 1” off the frame with 1200lbs.
     
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    @TurtleWrench
    Wait a minute here, I'm confused. You say "bottoming out", which I would take as your truck is fully compressing your suspension (squatting), is that what you mean?

    I don't think upper arms would contribute to that. Upper arms can allow more droop, and possibly open up more compression (because they use free floating bushings rather than tension bushings like oem arms do), but they would not cause you to bottom out. That would still be a matter of spring and shock, mostly spring.

    No matter how much travel your upper arms have, it is the duty of your spring and shock to limit movement. If your truck is bottoming out too easily you have springs that are too soft for the truck. Do you have a heavy bumper and maybe skid plate or sliders? What else is added to your truck that may add weight? 700 pound springs are typically the option for added weight, you might have lighter than you think.

    Adding aftermarket bump stops would only lighten the blow but won't stop the motion. Thats relieving the symptom but not addressing the problem.
     
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    I got them from Wheelers offroad. I think they sell 3 different sizes, 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2".

    It does not hit on the same roads and bumps that it did after I installed the freedom UCAs. It rarely, if ever did before either. Probably would have hit a serious hole/dip hard to do it now. But the durobumps are about twice the height of the OEM bumpstops so it would not be the same anyway. Still have not noticed any hits with the them either and they seem pretty stiff.
     
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    I think it is the free-floating vs the tension bushings. You would think there would not be much difference in travel, but mine was immediately noticeable after the UCA change.
     
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    I looked over the link provided hoping to see info on the coils but the actual rate is not listed. I was able to find this in the (C59-314) coil description:

    Gives this lift and suits these models: 2.0" - Toyota 4Runner 2003-09 V8 Heavy Load 100-220LBS 2.5" - Toyota 4Runner 2010-2018 V6 Medium Load 80-150LBS 3.0" - Toyota 4Runner 2009-2017 V6 Light Load 1.75" - Toyota Tacoma 2005-15 Dual Cab Heavy Load to 220LBS 2.0" - Toyota Tacoma 2016-17 Dual Cab Medium Load to 100LBS 3.0" - Toyota Tacoma 2016-17 Dual Cab Light Load (no winch or extra weight)

    The 4runner listed first should be similar in weight to your Tundra.

    Also saw this when looking at the full Dobinsons kit, which matches the 4runner info.

    Screenshot_20210430-111715_Chrome.jpg

    Without knowing how the coil perch on Dobinsons shock compares to the 5100 shock its pretty hard to say where you should have them set. Definitely starting at the lowest is a good recommendation. I wouldn't add spacers above them, that potentially creates its own problems but its your choice.

    Reach out to Dobinsons and find out if they can share the spring rate. 600-650 would be low if you have a heavy bumper, 700 should be just right. Or even reach out to your supplier and let us know what they say.
     

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