Max Payload issue - help

I’m sure it can! We should post door stickers with trim, year and port options (which I’m guessing port installed or dealer options are the yellow sticker). I see an overly complex Excel spreadsheet being made from this

 

These trucks are under rated your truck wont fall apart if you over load it a little I just hauled a load of flooring in my 19 crewmax 1794 it was 1600 plus me and stuff in the truck so 1900 easy and it was fine I wouldent do it every day but once and a wile it's fine I've owned lots of trucks and you can tell when it's too much weight the way it feels to drive and the suspension squat and my tundra was fine with 1600 in the back no problem I also have a speed boat and a work trailer both over 5k lbs no problems I think the load rating is for all conditions off road included on a flat road it can handle more weight

 

Bullshit. I own a Tundra and you definitely know it when you have anything that is close to the payload in the bed. Thanks for the confession of recklessness, though. People like you doing stuff like that kills other people. Please don't come to Colorado - that is too close to where I currently live, and I have family in Colorado.

Glad you know better than the Engineers. The load rating is what it is. Why eff with it? Why push it just because you "think" that it is conservative? How much your suspension is squatting means little when it comes to a load.

 

But....But....But.... it pulled the Space Shuttle.

 

LMAO. Right?

It PULLED it. It didn't TOW it. Let's see you put that on a hitch. Tongue weight of say, what.....20K? LOL.

 

I wanna see that. Put the front gear in bed of a Tundra, or F550.

 

This seems like an open ended bet where new rules are gonna keep getting added lol. The reality is that Tundra pulled 300k lb space shuttle and silverado 2500 pulled a 225k lb boat like 5 years later or so. Maybe the tongue weight it can handle is lower since it's made for off road too so the suspension has to be soft enough but with proper weight distribution I would trust it towing more than any other half ton even though it's a design from 06.

 

When people tell me to slow down I go faster lol and I go to Colorado a couple times a year so too bad. Maybe your Tundra actually just has the 4.0 lol

 

I personally don't think its a good Idea to overload trucks but around here there are half tons pulling 5th wheels. smh

 

Ok we need a failure test who's ready to break a truck !!!!then we will know for sure what it can do

 

and as a counterpoint (or the need for more pics)... 6 passenger, 07 CM SR5 TRD offroad, and no yellow adjustment tags.

 

FML. He was right.

 

@TacoWuzzaTurd Grats on the new Rig!

@ColoradoTJ Figured you might find this interesting since it kind of has to do what was talked about in this thread. After getting a procedure done at the doctors I was waiting for my wife to pick me up and I saw this White Tundra Double Cab with a commercial sticker stating the GVWR was 8000 pounds. He had a rather big 5th wheel camper hooked up to it too. Don't states check with Manufactures when they hand out those stickers? That would allow that Tundra almost 2k of payload according to the state of Kansas.

 

Thanks was sorry to see the Tundra go. It was a great looking truck and barely even had it a year. It just wasn't getting the towing done in the high elevation and our trailer tongue weight, even with properly setup Equalizer Weight Distribution hitch, was too much for the truck. My wife got tired of the 7 to 8MPG and engine screaming up hill. It was a necessary change for safety, if nothing else. I was reluctant to buy a "FIAT" but the prices were flat out amazing as they still have leftover 2018s on the lots (over - produced?). I picked this one up for under 50k vehicle purchase price (MSRP was 63k) and they gave me 40k for my tundra which is actually 1k more than purchase price I paid on it the year before. Of course I had a few grand in wheels/tires/suspension mods....oh well it's only money, right? I was very pleased when I drove home yesterday on I-10 and averaged 24mpg (lie-o-meter said so) in the new truck. Hopefully it holds up--my few weeks of research really didn't yield any significant negative results on any of the Big 3 Heavy Duty Diesels in recent years.

 

Congrats on the new ride. I almost did the same thing that you did a while back. Ram has it's problems, but they all do - even the mighty Toyota.

My brother-in-law has an '07 Ram 3500 with a Cummins. Just rolled 267,000 miles. He has had to change the ball joints 3 times I think (which sucks, but his first set outlasted the ball joints on my Tundra). Other than that, he hasn't done anything to the rig (not even fuel injectors - which surprises me). Anyway, hopefully yours will treat you well.

 

Can you do it in your Tundra? Sure.

Should you? Not in my opinion. You are legally over the payload limit. I am not sure what is so hard for some people to understand about that. It is a line in the sand - don't go over it. But people always do.

 

Is there really a 300# or more difference between the cm and the dc? My 2018 (with the real 8 foot truck bed) has a 5600# curb weight and a 1600# payload. What is your curb weight, OP?

 

We use imperial but tons here in Murica, lol

 

He can disagree with us all he wants. He's still wrong. As @ColoradoTJ points out below - there is a lot more than suspension and tires that goes into the payload ratings. It has been shown on this forum (maybe even in this thread - I can't remember) that the frame difference between a 1/2 ton and a heavy duty is significant. Brakes are usually bigger on HD trucks. Axle assemblies are definitely beefier on HD trucks. I've said it before - the addition of airbags/cradles actually DECREASES the trucks payload capacity (you added weight to your truck, thus your payload is now lower).

The bottom line is people ignore this stuff all the effing time, and usually things are fine. But, every once in a while, someone overloads the shit out of their vehicle and then an accident happens and the overloaded vehicle can't stop/handle as well as it was designed to and someone dies.

You can't legally increase the payload safely. There is no resounding YES. The truck might be able to handle it - but if an accident happens and someone dies and a lawyer shows up......I think TJ said something earlier about a metric butt-ton of money???? And the fact that someone died. There is always that.

Sorry, it pisses me off to no end. People that think they know better than the Engineers. Sure, sometimes I think I know better than Engineers because I am one, and I know that we fuck up. That is why we have factors of safety, why we have listed capacities, why safety is built into the system. It is obvious that the builder is talented and can make some amazing stuff. But, playing with the kind of stuff and not keeping weight limits in mind is just ignorant, IMO.

As usual when it comes to this stuff, this guy gets it.

 

So I can't say buy a different truck? Umm..

There is nothing legally that you can do to strap 2,000 lbs to your truck plus your extra gear, plus your weight.

So, as an Engineer, if someone gave this to me as a "problem" to solve, and said that I had to keep the Tundra CrewMax as the base - I would work on designing a lighter slide in camper. But again, you are talking a CrewMax - and their payload is effing anemic (I know - that is what I have). Then, I would say eff you to my passengers and rip out the rear seats and maybe see if I could design something that incorporated the back half of the truck. Would entail a lot of custom work and another metric butt-ton of money.

Or, if you were dead set on the Tundra CM body, you could go and source a heavy duty frame that is about the same dimensions and slam a Tundra body on it.

But modifying the base Tundra to handle more load than it is designed for? That is playing with fire legally. But if you insisted, I would put heavier duty suspension components, 1 ton axle assemblies, bigger brakes, and do a shit ton of analysis on the frame to see what modifications would need to be made to handle the loads. But analysis only goes so far - there would have to be testing, and a lot of it. This would be a metric butt-ton of money X 50.

Just go buy another truck.

 

I knew it. Was just on my phone and didn't want to bother searching up on it.

 

I'm not mad at you. Just a hot button for me. People can and have died because people have grossly overloaded there vehicles.

Smaller trucks can have bigger payloads than bigger trucks if they are designed properly. No problem. My Land Cruiser has a bigger payload than my CrewMax. It also has a boxed frame and fully floating rear axle. Also, the Hilux is a pretty kick-ass truck. Many wish that we could have that platform over here.

As many have said before - there is a lot that goes into calculating payload. Can the Tundra handle more than advertised? Yes - Engineer's build in factors of safety because they know that they make mistakes, and they also know that there are people like yourself that will challenge the payload ratings just because some other guy successfully pulled it off, or because a truck that is smaller in physical size can carry more.

And let's get one thing clear - the Aussies are crazy.