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Installing TRD PRO Seqouia shocks on 2023 SR5 help!!

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by SgtSausage1978, Dec 11, 2023.

  1. Dec 11, 2023 at 6:14 PM
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    so if i swap out my black hitachi shocks for the TRD PRO (actually came off a trd pro sequoia) shocks will i automatically gain the 1.5” up front without a spacer or collar or anything ? i know the tundra PROS come leveled is that just because the front shock is longer?

    i’m going to install the red CV axles to upgrade from the black ones

    i assume i would need new UCAs is that accurate ?

    anything else need swapped brake lines, bump stops etc.. ???

    any info would sure help thanks
     
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    I may be wrong, but the spring rates on the sequoia and tundra are not the same. You’re not going to gain the same height on a tundra as they would produce on the sequoia. But to answer your other question….you wouldn’t need to change out all the other stuff mentioned.
     
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    ok thanks i called a toyota dealership and the parts tech there said that the tundra and sequoia share the same frame..and he could not find any difference in the fox pro shock part numbers which then lead us to believe the shocks were interchangeable ..

    so the shocks may be the same but now i need to check if the springs are different thanks
     
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    The new Tundras are basically Seqouias now. Should be fine.
     
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    Is there different mounting or anything with one being straight rear axle and one being independent rear suspension between the 2?
    That'd be my main concern as well as spring rating between the 2
     
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    i’m going to toyota dealer to look up exact part number for springs and shocks tomorrow ..

    hope they match exactly
     
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    so it does seem that the springs are different between models even though shocks are the same .. i couldn’t get exact load rates or height rates from toyota, fox, or dobinsons .

    and i could not order just the springs for the front shocks it comes as a full strut

    and of course part numbers between models are not the same

    i think the dream is dead
     
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    I have them on my truck. Fits fine. Yes you won’t get the lift but the ride under load is unmatched

    I don’t see why you can’t just order spacers from west cott
     
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    the dream is back on !!!! so if i got a preload 1.5” collar lift in the front only and used the stock springs that come with the trd pro sequoia i should be 100% ready to get nasty is what you’re saying ..

    that would level out my SR5 and maybe sit a smidge higher front and back because the TRD PRO models sit a smidge higher anyway

    cinderella story tears in his eyes a lowly SR5 Po boy with a dream

    i just tow a light boat .. have 1 snowmobile in the bed at times , couple dirt bikes at times ..i don’t have tents or anything
     
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    Why not just get the ones for the tundra?
     
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    because they’re over 4 grand and i got a deal on sequoia take offs
     
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    And why would the ones for the sequoia be any different?
     
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    read this thread my friend ..the shocks are the same but the springs are a different height and load rate
     
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    I’m referring to the cost. The spring rate doesn’t affect the cost. Fox shocks are Fox shocks. If the tundra are $4k, the ones for the sequoia aren’t going to be any cheaper, if at all.
     
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    they’re take offs on the used market not new ..

    my last question to Tom is are the strut towers the same ? the tree top thing don’t know what it’s called where the top of the strut 4 bolts go ??? can i use my hitachi SR5 top tower ?

    and i don’t need to change the upper control arms or bump stops or anything since im only going up 1.5”????

    beers on me
     
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    You are able to install the TRD Pro Fox 2.5" Shocks just fine on the Tundra.

    You do not need to swap anything in regards to the Upper Control Arms (UCAs) and all the bump stops, brake lines, etc will be just fine.

    Installing the TRD Off-Road Package/TRD Pro Red Axles is a good idea.

    The lift of 1.1", not 1.5", is achieved simply by putting in the TRD Pro Front Shock Assembly.

    The shock towers, where it bolts in, is going to be the same across the Sequoia and Tundra.
     
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    The MY22+ Tundra & MY23+ Sequoia are both multi-link rear suspensions...the Sequoia no longer has IRS...
     
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    If you tow often, you're going to want to get a different rear coil spring...the TRD Pro Fox 2.5" Shocks are SOFT compared to your stock setup...look into a set of Dobinsons...
     
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    oh hell yea great info ..so i should not install the pre load collar 1.5” lift which would then give me 2.6” total which is too much ..

    i will just use the sequoia trd pro shock and spring and that will get me a 1.1” lift in the front and i’m fine with that
     
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    Did you end up going through with the sequoia shocks? I have a 24 tundra sr5 and can pick up some sequoia trd pro shocks near by. Curious how much the front came up.
     
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    Is your truck a hybrid? The TRD Pro trucks are about 500 lbs heavier than the non-hybrid so you may get more lift than anticipated.
     
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    I don’t think he has a hybrid. Should be a limited and up trim. And the sequoia is a heavier vehicle
     
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    SR5s don’t have the option of the hybrid engine to my understanding ..Non Hybrid

    I have not yet installed the suspension shops want close to a grand i’ll just do it myself when i get access to a lift and air tools unless someone on here has a garage i can rent near utah?? .plus i was waiting on my rims tires..

    going with a 18x9 raceline +18 offset with a set of recon grapplers 34.3” with a SL load rate at only 52 lbs..wanted to try to Falken wild peaks but they only make 10ply tires near 70lbs in anything over 33” which is overkill i feel on half tons that don’t tow heavy unless your in serious sharp rocks but fun fact of the day..
    I called Falken and they stated all their tires sidewalls are 2ply in essence on all tire models so the protection of 10 ply comes from just harder tread is my understanding ..

    but back to suspension ..I will install the Seqouia shocks with Seqouia springs..no UCAs or brake lines or bump stops or anything need to be changed i was told..these will automatically give me a 1.1” lift up front and slight lift in rear not sure how much .. i then bought a 1/4” top shim plate from Traxxda which will lift the front an extra 1/2” is what the said so that should put me at 1.6” lift in front fine by me..

    i can update this thread when i do it should be pretty soon
     
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    suspension install 8 days away..i hope ryanwgregg is correct with that 1.1” lift from just the shock and my added 1/4” (1/2”) shim plate from Traxxda will give me a total lift of 1.6” in the front ..

    the rear TRD PRO sequoia reservoir shocks are longer than the fronts..im sure when they are under load they compress down to their sweet spot which hopefully is 1.5” lower than the front ride height ..yikes…rims/tires/ shocks going on next week i’ll update with pics IMG_0822.jpg
     
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    Rears are longer on the Tundra as well...they are essential the same shocks...here are my Tundra TRD Pro Fox Shocks...

    s-l1600.jpg
     
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    That’s a big Fat Fing Negative ghostrider what the hell!!!!

    not only did it not raise it it lowered the front end like 3/4”!!!!

    the shocks are fine they are exactly the same but the springs are the problem here.. the shop did not put the Sequoia TRD PRO rear spring in because it was about an inch shorter than the stock SR5 Tundra rear spring ..they did install the front Sequoia shocks with the red TRD PRO springs and the 1/4” spacer up top and like i said i lost 1/2”-3/4” instead of gaining the 1.6” like i was told would happen ..talk about pissing money into the wind my god..this dude at the shop knows his stuff he just wasnt sure about the 1.1” gain from the shock ..not sure how ryan guy on here got that..i can’t the blame the people trying to help but yikes

    first pic is factory hitachi suspension with TRD 20s

    next is factory hitachi with tires/rims mounted

    next is after TRD PRO shock install

    IMG_0840.jpg IMG_0846.jpg IMG_0849.jpg
     
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    so the final note here is if you can buy the shocks at a deal then do it but you might have to get some TRD PRO tundra springs or you could probably just add a 3/1 wescott lift and be good even with the sequoia springs potentially ..here i thought i’m done with the truck after my lightbar install ..negative gotta bust out the wallet once again ..

    buy spacers, buy springs not sure what would be best
     
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    Isn’t westcot designed based in Utah and did you ask them what spacers to use on this set up?
     
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    negative i didn’t want the 3/1 wescott lift ..thought i could get 1.6 in the front just from the TRD PRO strut which was supposed to be 1.1” longer than stock shock and a 1/2” spacer lift ..

    now that 3/1 could come into play though that may solve it .. i was trying to avoid doing UCAs and everything else which should be done over 2” i was told
     
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    You know, it's okay for you to tag me, right? Not just call me "Ryan Guy"...that made me laugh this morning...

    I've seen and measured both the front TRD Pro Fox Shocks and they are identical in every measurement...the only difference could potentially be the spring rate, which I would find a little odd, but not out of the question...

    EDIT: I just had a thought...with the rear springs being shorter, it would ultimately change the entire geometry of the suspension as a whole...hmm...
    Westcott Designs Preload Collar with Shim is going to be better than just a simple spacer...
    Westcott Designs is based in Phoenix, AZ, not Utah...
    The TRD Pro Fox Shock IS NOT 1.1" longer than the stock shock...it should provide 1.1" of lift, but the shock itself is not longer...not sure where you got that...

    The stock UCA is fine up to about 3" of front lift...
     
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