Official Banks Power 3rd Gen Tundra Discussion

I think it is reading the sensor data and then adjusting it to fool the ECM into thinking it is running less boost than it actually is...probably a voltage based change, but don't quote me on that...

AFE, Stillen, and others are doing the same thing...

https://afepower.com/afe-power-77-86005-scorcher-blue-bluetooth-power-module
https://stillen.com/collections/ele...ntrol-by-stillen-inline-power-module-tc201001
https://www.vrtuned.com/vr-tuned-ec...rce-35l-twinturbo-389hp-2022-p-155950101.html

 

What Ryan said. JB4 simply intercepts MAP data and fools the ECM by reporting lower boost pressure than actually being produced, thus the ECM ups the wastegate until it sees commanded psi.

From what I've been told by BMS, OBD2 data is used for fail safe measures...knock, overboost, egt, etc.

 

Thank you. I figured they are employing the same safeguard that we do in our Derringer inline tuners. We underreport FTP/MAP, etc... We monitor EOT, ECT, EGT, and Trans Slip. If anything goes beyond the factory safe limit, our tuners back down until the temps drop. Now, if you remove the OBD connection on the JBA, it can no longer monitor those parameters. That's why I was asking...

 

I'm not sure the JB4 is monitoring any of that...

They have a new harness that powers it off the Active Front Spoiler connector...

 

From their JB4 FAQ

 

I was under the impression that the harness wasnt to power the unit, rather to control the activation of the spoiler/access canbus. I was a beta tester for that as well. I believe power comes from the MAP sensors

 

It would seem so...

Does the Front Active Spoiler harness from Burger really only have 2-pins populated?

 

I believe so. I actually left the obd connection instead of the FAS harness. Makes for easier install/removal for me just reaching under the dash vs reaching the spoiler harness.

 

It would make sense given what I'm seeing in the wiring diagram...the two pins they are using on the Front Active Spoiler Connector are 100% for CAN...

 

Does this include a pedal monster with different firmware?

 

Yes, Test Pilots will wirelessly receive beta firmware.

 

So you need to already have a pedal monster?

 

They are sending out a Pedal Monster to some of us to test and give daily feedback…

 

Well we just got done with the testing and I’m hooked on the banks pedal monster. It’s pretty dam good. I’m running city mode with level 4, just went up to level 5 today. It feels great compared to stock. The reverse safety feature is great. It detects when you go into reverse and switches back to stock so you have that really soft pedal feel for backing up. I also tried the track mode and it was insane lol you press the pedal a little and it’s pretty much floored. No reason for me to use the track mode but it’s there if I needed it. I’ll probably be adding the idash to it as well. Not that my opinion is special but I would recommend the pedal monster to anyone. With the wide variety of options it can suit any way you want the pedal to feel. Thanks again @ToyFan for giving me the opportunity to help you guys test it out.

 

My only wish is that it had a dedicated switch. I don’t really need the I dash (with all the extra info)and I don’t like using my phone to make adjustments. It would be great if perhaps they had a switch with say 4 favorites that you set using your phone, but after you set it you don’t need your phone.

 

Yeah, can definitely tell when it goes in/out of reverse safety mode. I have about a 5 second delay and can tell/see when it switches over and it's an instant noticeable difference in pedal input.

 

Also running city mode on the pedal monster and absolutely love it. I also like using tow mode with pedal monster, and dial it down when I do that. Amazingly satisfying and responsive power on tap. Using it with an idash where I’ve corrected the speed gauge with my revised tire size. Just a superb product that since the most recent Toyota neutral roll recall and transmission flash has basically eliminated my turbo lag.

 

So I was one of the testers also. The reverse safety is a cool feature. I am running mine on city and at level 2. When I tried the higher power settings I didn’t like how it was shifting. The lower settings work perfectly for me. Cleans up the dead pedal feel doesn’t eliminate it but it is way better. Super easy to install. Over all it’s a nice product and it works great! Thanks @ToyFan for letting me be part of this you guys rock!

 

I was lucky enough to be selected to test the PedalMonster. Being able to change the throttle response curve is an absolute game changer. To anyone that is on the fence about the PedalMonster, do your self a favor and purchase it. In my opinion, you wont regret it. As @Tacotundra mentioned, it really cleans up that dead pedal feel. Makes Sport mode just that much more fun. I went as far as purchasing the iDash as well after the testing period. Being able to control the Pedal monster from the iDash is quite nice. I have used Banks products before and appreciate the time and effort that Banks puts in to each product they support.

@ToyFan Thank you again for allowing me to be apart of the pilot testing. I tried to take a look back through the thread to determine if the engineering team was able to find a solution regarding current gear information for the iDash. However, I didn't find anything. Have there been any updates on current gear PID for iDash?

 

I recently purchased an iDash and pedal monster and also would like to be able to see the actual gear instead of just PRND as well. I recently took a trip and noticed the truck was hunting for gears, would have been nice to see what gears it was cycling through so if it continues to be an issue it will help narrow down my issue.

 

Warning - sort of pic heavy.

I really like the Banks equipment I have installed in my '23 Platinum non-hybrid. This is the first time I've owned Banks equipment and I was hesitant to go "all in" up front. Initially, I bought a Pedal Monster, an iDash and a single gauge pod mount. I got one of the early pods that didn't fit so well. The first 2 pics show the single pod and the fit problem. Pod issue aside, I really liked the Pedal Monster and the iDash, but I wanted more info. @ToyFan worked with me to go from the single pod to the double and now I have a second iDash - pics attached. Much better fit.

For me, the setup removes the pedal sluggishness, but I think it may have affected the leather surface of the passenger seat because I've gotten a little side eye from my wife that I can only assume is caused by some rearward shift that she didn't expect. I don't know. I'll continue to monitor that.

The iDash gauges give me instant on the fly changes to the Monster settings and all the real time feedback I want regarding what the truck is doing. I especially like being able to know what the transmission temp is when towing. I usually run the Pedal Monster in City mode Level 7, with occasional trips into Sport and Track mode levels. I have to say, Track mode at 10 is flipping crazy (see side eye comment above). This thing doesn't need to go to 11.

@ToyFan thanks for your help with this - I really appreciate it.