Tundras live: Agree to disagree (a lesson in civility)

Yup. Kinda seems like extortion to me. I have to pay them extra to NOT put corn in fuel. Whatever "genius" came up with ethanol is gasoline needs swift, repeated kicks to the balls or ham wallet, whichever they have..

 

Yep, glad we only have to deal with "maximum 10% ethanol" out here. I use it in vehicles but every other engine I own gets non-ethanol.

 

Found it.

https://www.autoblog.com/2022/02/01/2022-toyota-tundra-price-fuel-economy-hybrid-iforcemax-epa/


The minimal gains are far outweighed by the added cost of the new truck, IMO. I've said it before, I'll say it again: If it's not a gain of at least 8-10 MPG it's not even worth worrying about.

 

WOW, 2mpg gain over non-hybrid. Hard pass

 

I'm not paying 80 cents a gallon more for 91 so every engine I have gets 87 with 10% ethanol and the lawnmower gets fuel stabilizer in the fall.

 

Now, in all fairness this hybrid is designed for a better towing experience, not MPG. I'm ok with the MPG it has. What I'm not ok with is the absurd price you pay for it and the added complexity of a turbo on a gas workhorse. Only way I want a turbo is if I am after speed, or on a diesel. A towing gasser should be a naturally aspirated, big ol' fat ass V8.

 

I want this.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for...JUKq4_WRQ5MFE0GLAVsgITjr-Wv6sv_mJ42tCbUpLHT7A

 

You like the giant mini trucks, eh? Doesn't look to terrible, but it'd be even sexier with the 5.7 IMO. What would be your plans for it?

 

Same here except I alternate on fill ups in the truck. Everything else gets ethanol free or the highest octane I can find.

 

Would have to be Sc’d at a minimum!

 

I had an Ecoboost in my last truck and it was heaven. I miss the boost every single time I’m towing. I would get one again in a heartbeat

Does the ‘22 engine have direct injection? That’s a bigger issue for me than a turbo. Unless the motor also has port injection to help clean the valves.

 

Just don’t see too many regular cabs around, especially not in good shape like that one. I’d prefer it to be 4x4, but I’d just be using it as a daily driver and dog hauler to keep some of her fur out of my 18 lol. But for $10k, no way I’m touching that truck. But it’s cool to see.

 

Agreed. Just meh. However will be interested in the hybrid Sequoia numbers. Might be in on that one.

 

I had an ecoboost too. I’d was a blast to drive. Probably the most fun engine I’ve ever owned. I miss the twin turbos. Unfortunately, the rest of the truck was a pile of garbage.

 

Good strategy, I like it

 

So far as I know (internet memories at this point) all Toyotas are port and direct injected to keep the valves clean.

 

Is he selling it for less than $10K?

 

I think it has direct and port but don't quote me on that.

 

Okay, I searched the ‘22 brochure. It says “D-4ST direct-injection and port-injection fuel system”

So confirmed.

 

Thank you for sharing! It was a good read. Glad you came out of it ok and are here to share.

 

First and only time I've gone to the ER was because I thought my appendix might be the issue. Originally went to the urgent care for the stabbing knives in my right side. Started out as a dull ache in my back, so I though my back was out, but once it progressed I thought appendix or kidney stone. Anyway, Urgent Care Doc said she was 90% sure it was a kidney stone, but I needed to go get scanned to rule out the appendix because it was only on my right side. She even offered to call the ambulance. Told her "Nope. My Niece is willing to drive me, and I'd rather die en route than pay for an ambulance ride."

ER was about 30 minutes away, and after about 20 minutes I really really needed to pee. Had to pull over and try on the side of the road with traffic whizzing by. (See what I did there?) Stopped 3 times in the last 10 minutes of the drive to pee, but only a tiny dribble at best. Figured it was a kidney stone at that point, but the Doc had already called ahead. Went in, got scanned, and I still have my appendix. They sent me home with hydrocodone (Useless. Gives me a headache and doesn't help with pain at all.) and orders to drink tons of water.

To date, no physical pain before or since has been as bad as the itty bitty kidney stones I had.

 

Literally quoting you on that, sorry.