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Tow Haul?!

Discussion in '2.5 Gen Tundras (2014-2021)' started by Greg Marmalard, Mar 22, 2020.

  1. Mar 22, 2020 at 12:47 PM
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    Greg Marmalard

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    Hi,

    I can not find Toyota's recommendation on how to use tow haul mode. I used it last year and kept my 2019 4x4 OR in 4th, out of OD, the entire time. I recall some saying not necessary but not sure.....

    Everyone has an opinion but what does Toyota say? Does tow haul keep it out of OD except with cruising with no/low load?

    It's a drag because THE quickest way to fry a tranny is towing in OD....

    References would be welcomed addition!

    Thanks!
     
  2. Mar 22, 2020 at 1:05 PM
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    ColoradoTJ

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    Place shifter in D, select tow haul mode, happy towing. In this configuration, I was in 3rd and 4th most of the time.

    Coming down steep mountain grades, I would take the transmission to S, which puts you in 4th and downshift from there to maintain a reasonable speed.

    I tow in overdrive exclusively, with tow haul on, never replaced a transmission.

    Now if the transmission is hunting between 5th and 4th a lot, shift in S mode until grade is completed. The torque converter locking and unlocking (hunting) is what causes heat.
     
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  3. Mar 22, 2020 at 1:08 PM
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    Hoff

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    From what I know the Tow Haul Mode will keep the engine at higher revs between shifts. This keeps the engine from lugging. You could also use the S mode to achieve the same results as the Tow Haul mode.
     
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  4. Mar 22, 2020 at 1:19 PM
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    4.30 factory gearing allows you to tow well in OD...than enable tow/haul mode and you become a work-horse +
     
  5. Mar 22, 2020 at 2:29 PM
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    I love Tow Haul :) It’s a cheap man’s super charger !!

    That combined with 4.30 rear end and cheap gas is a beautiful thing.
     
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  6. Mar 22, 2020 at 3:20 PM
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    Tundyfundy

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    Here is the Quick Reference Manual page that addresses Tow Haul Mode
     

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  7. Mar 22, 2020 at 3:22 PM
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    “Tow/Haul” mode is ideal for use when carrying heavy loads.
    When the TOW/ HAUL switch is pressed, throttle response and transmission control are optimized for the high performance operation. As fuel economy is reduced while in “Tow/ Haul” mode, deactivating when driving without a load is recommended.
    ‡ Upshifts occur at higher engine speeds to expand the use of lower gear ranges, enhancing power performance during towing and preventing repeated gear changes.
    ‡ Downshifts occur at a greater accelerator pedal angle to allow the vehicle to stay in a higher gear, reducing repeated gear changes.
    ‡ Downshifts occur at a lower accelerator pedal angle to allow the vehicle to stay in a lower gear, enhancing towing ability.
    ‡ When the accelerator pedal is wide open, upshift timing is optimized to effectively use the maximum engine power range available. When Tow/Haul is engaged, the opening angle of the electronically controlled throttle is wider for any given accelerator pedal position than normal, enhancing acceleration feeling and response.
    ‡ During uphill driving, the gear position is held to prevent repeated upshifting.
    ‡ During downhill driving, downshifting to lower gears will occur to effectively use engine braking. Refer to the Owner‘s Manual for more details on this system before attempting to use it.
     
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  8. Mar 22, 2020 at 3:26 PM
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    Here is the Tow/ Haul section in the manual
     

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