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Thinking I should get better brakes

Discussion in '2.5 Gen Tundras (2014-2021)' started by Shadowfax1, Feb 11, 2022.

  1. Feb 11, 2022 at 8:58 AM
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    The stopping power of the OEM pads and rotors seems pretty pathetic. And a tad worrisome for hauling big trailers.

    Looking for recommendations for better pads and rotors. I’ve never done anything but OEM brakes on my previous cars but this is the first one I’ve had where I feel like the factory brakes aren’t nearly as good as they should or could be.
     
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    Stoptech Sport cryo treated, slotted only rotors and pads.
     
  3. Feb 13, 2022 at 9:47 AM
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    What pads? Posi Quiet ceramic?
     
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    EBC yellow pads will completely change/improve your braking distance. They're also dusty AF but the dust is worth the confidence they provide. They eat rotors so some guys I know just run OEM rotors with the EBC yellow for cost savings
     
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    Stoptech cryo slotted rotors and EBC yellow stuff pads. Great solution! 20220201_121256.jpg
     
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    Another vote for stoptech cryo slotted rotors and ebc yellow pads. Skip powerstop. There’s a lot of threads with powerstop issues. Mine only lasted about 10k.
     
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    I must have got a good set then.. Ill have to try the Stoptech then thank
     
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    Are you sure you have factory rotors and pads?
    I and many others find them to be some of the best brakes on any vehicle around.

    Mine sure feel great, and I just replaced them on the front 2 weeks ago (OEM rotors and OEM pads), they are strong like brand new again.
    At many dealers it seems you have to specifically ask for factory pads or they give you cheaper lower quality ones, at least in my areas that's what they all pushed unless I nailed them down on it.
    Brings you back more often for brakes so they make money probably, idk.

    I don't really tow yet tbh but I can't see ever needing aftermarket brakes for normal use.

    Good luck and let us know how they do over time.
     
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    What about the EBC USR slotted rotors and yellowstuff pads? Are EBC rotors just not any good or is a cost thing? 68B65D44-7A7B-4837-9C34-3FECB8ED95F6.jpg
     
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    I would look at more aggressive pads and checking your brake fluid. Rotors main purpose is to act as a heat sink. I will say that Stoptech makes an awesome product.

    Brake fluid is often overlooked. It may look fine at the master cylinder but could be boiling at the calipers. During my unsuccessful auto-x days, I would do a caliper bleed before and after each event.

    The last thing I can say is to check your tongue weight.
     
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    Trailer should have its own brakes. Heck my truck stops faster with trailer as its brakes are so good it slows the truck down.
     
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  13. Feb 13, 2022 at 10:28 PM
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    Hmm. Well, I don’t know that I can be sure. I just bought the truck on New Year’s Eve. Only had 27K on the odometer and it clearly hadn’t been used as a work truck, so I assume the pads and rotors are original.

    That said, I find the stopping power to be pretty bad. I came to the truck from a 4Runner which had phenomenal braking power and its Toyota pads and rotors lasted me - no joke - 113,000 miles even though I’m quite hard on my cars. The truck is heavier etc. - of course it’ll take longer to stop. But I don’t find it very good, and certainly not in comparison to the other trucks I test drove. FWIW, Consumer Reports also for the 2018 model year rated the Tundra’s brakes to be one of its worst marks.
     
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    Agreed. I’m not actually towing yet, except twice a small utility trailer. Wanted to get used to the truck before towing any major trailers, especially having never driven a land yacht before getting this truck.

    I’ve only had it for a month and a half. My observations on the truck’s braking distance are based solely on the truck alone without trailer.
     
  15. Feb 13, 2022 at 10:33 PM
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    Good point to check the brake fluid. Hard to imagine it’d be a big problem at 27K miles, but it’s not impossible. Toyota Certified, so theoretically they did that before selling it to me…theoretically.
     
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    They probably didn’t change the fluid if it looked good to save them time and money even though it doesn’t take long. It’s just maybe 30 pumps of the brake for the rear and less for the front. Might be 2 quarts or so. I’d say change it when you do your pads and rotors. I’ve read that it’s easy to get condensation in it and that’ll hurt your braking power.

    https://www.tundras.com/threads/tundra-maintenance-guide.315/#post-4466
    • Replace brake fluid every 2 to 3 years or 24,000 - 36,000 miles.
     
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    I would also say to replace your rubber brake lines to SS lines.
     
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    My thought, as well. Many people think our trucks have crap brakes, but they’re still capable of activating the ABS when you put the wood to them. Maybe going away from the more pliable rubber lines and moving to stainless hoses would help. I sure know I had way less spongy feel in my old quads when I would go to braided lines…. Lose that flex and transfer the pressure more effectively.
     
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    Stoptech cryo, yellow pads, change brake fluid if needed. Done. Every other option is less. Been there.
     
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    I have done much research on forums about this topic and still need some advice

    Went in for an Oil change and was told I need to replace my Rotors(they are warp) and Brakes, I'm almost at 60K.....
    Do I need to go OEM all around or Cyro slotted rotors/ NOT with OEM Pads? Where is the best place to get Stoptech Cyro Rotors?
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    I ordered my stop tech rotors from tire rack, but just search online for the best price.
     
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    What is the part# for the EBC yellow pads? Where are you all getting them from?
     
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    Are you looking for just pads?
     
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    I love my PowerStop Severe Duty Truck/Tow, have rotors and pads on front and back. Felt like a great upgrade over OEM. Only about 3k miles in so no clue about how they’ll last, but another great thing is I got both sets nearly half price off Amazon. I barely paid over $400
     
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    I like the stock brakes too just put new oem rotors and pads on the front and still running original rears with 90k on truck.
     
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    Any experience with slotted and drilled? Just wondering why you suggest slotted only.
     
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    Wow, I'm surprised to hear this, my 2020 has a bed topper and stuff in the bed at all times which adds up to around 500 pounds and it stops on a dime with the stock brakes.
     
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    Alot of them
    Slotted and drilled are more prone to pulsation. I had slotted and drilled before my StopTechs.
     
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