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Discussion in 'General Tundra Discussion' started by 1794Mike, Oct 16, 2020.

  1. Oct 16, 2020 at 4:39 AM
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    1794Mike

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    Hello everyone! I just closed on a purchase yesterday and I pick up my new 2021 Army Green Tundra 1794 edition tomorrow. This is my first truck after a decade of wanting one. What I’m struggling with is what I’ve been reading about the 2022 Tundra. New engines. New upgrades. 30 miles a gallon? Am I making a bad choice in buying this 2021? There’s still time to back out and wait another year. Help me out. Much thanks to everyone.
     
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  2. Oct 16, 2020 at 4:43 AM
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    You got the last of the 5.7L V8 engines - be happy.
     
  3. Oct 16, 2020 at 4:47 AM
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    Army green with the 1794 interior?? Let’s see some pics!!
     
  4. Oct 16, 2020 at 4:49 AM
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    I'd be the wrong one to ask. My advice would be to find a nice one a few years old and save yourself a few grand.
     
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    I depends on what you will use it for. If it is just a daily driver, the 30 MPG would have been nice.

    Using it to tow, I think you will be amazed on how nice 5.7L V8 tows.

    Off road use....I imagine they be the same.

    I guess what really matters are 2 things
    1) what will you use it for
    2) Do you need a truck now or can you wait.
     
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  6. Oct 16, 2020 at 4:52 AM
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    You have to ask yourself a few questions...
    1.) How much do you love the truck you put a deposit on.

    2.) Can you afford the gas bill for the 5.7 when the gas spikes to 4 to 5 bucks a gallon.

    3.) What technology would make you regret not getting the newer model.

    Personally I would not buy a first model (Redesign) year vehicle unless it’s just body changes.

    I love the 5.7 and really don’t care about the gas mileage. But truth be told it’s my second vehicle that hauls the family and my trailer. Don’t stress about because in the end both will probably be great vehicles.
     
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  7. Oct 16, 2020 at 4:56 AM
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    I think you made the right decision I myself would not be interested in a twin turboed v6 and all the problems that end up coming with that. Ford also claims the EcoBoost gets high miles per gallon but when you stick a boat or something else behind it the Tundra has better fuel mileage than it does.
     
  8. Oct 16, 2020 at 4:57 AM
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    Agreed with all the comments above. There will be some things about the 2022 that are better than the 2021...and there are some
    Things that are not going to better.
    2018 and 2020 are basically the same. Apple car play, push button start and trans cooler are a few minor differences. I say minor because for me, they are minor. Hopefully my example makes my point.
    They are both great trucks...it’s all about what is important to you.
    Final piece of advice...after you make your decision, stick with it and stop watching, there is almost always a better deal tomorrow.
     
  9. Oct 16, 2020 at 5:02 AM
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    Hi Mike and welcome to the forum. DISCLAIMER: I'm biased as I just bought a "2020" Pro in Army Green. First of all, I think you made a great choice in trucks. The platform is proven and your 1794 is likely to give you many years of enjoyable service. The 2022 is also likely to be a great truck, but at this point, is still an unknown. We may like it a lot, but it is difficult to say. In addition, buying the first year of a new model is sometimes a bit of a gamble, as the 1st years are often the test mules to work out gremlins and goblins.

    With that said, I'm excited about the new Tundra and I expect it will be a game changer, without compromising the utility and reliability of the current and past Tundra's. If you are uncertain, then I would hit the pause button and sleep on it a few days. You don't want buyer's remorse. There will be other '21 Tundra's to purchase next week, next month or next year.
     
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  10. Oct 16, 2020 at 5:04 AM
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    One things for sure, the current Tundra has the best reliability record currently available. Also old fashion simplicity, something that's doubtful with the new model. Those are the main reasons I bought my 2020.

    Good luck, and let us know what you decide.
     
  11. Oct 16, 2020 at 5:15 AM
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    You did good, no worries. You really do not need a turbo six...it will be anemic to say the least. I know I enjoy my 5.7 every time I mash the gas....
     
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  12. Oct 16, 2020 at 5:24 AM
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  13. Oct 16, 2020 at 5:25 AM
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    Don't be afraid to think outside the box, and don't be that guy standing there wanting what someone else has..
     
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  14. Oct 16, 2020 at 5:35 AM
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    2022s not in dealers until the END of next year.
    Enjoy your bad-ass truck. If you decide to trade up, after letting other people try out an entirely new model to see if it lives up to the hype, know that it will hold its value very well.
     
  15. Oct 16, 2020 at 5:40 AM
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    Welcome from Colorado.
     
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  16. Oct 16, 2020 at 5:41 AM
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    Nice purchase! In my opinion, buy it and enjoy it. When the new one comes out, trade it in for a new one. The new model when it arrives will be available for many years to come. There is always something new. They might not roll out all the trims and options in the first year and might end up not having in the 2022 that the 23, 24 or later has.
     
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    Forum members are a fickle bunch - most of us here are enthusiast who have been watching these trucks for a while and reading and watching every thread and video there is about the Tundra. Most salespeople probably have no idea that the transmission cooler is no longer a thing from my experience.

    It's like every model release, people were on the fence about the redesigned 4runner and then there was the Tacoma release. Every car has it's story....I have a GX470 that people apparently still prefer over the 460...the list goes on.

    I think what's important for you is to evaluate what you're looking to use it for and how often you will tow/when you need a truck, etc. If you need a truck now and want the "final" version of one of the most reliable trucks of all time, I would get a 2020/2021 and be happy for the next decade. We don't know what the next generation of Tundra and Engines will look like. It's clear Toyota overbuilt the Tundra and it many ways and they may not try as hard with the next one to keep cost down while still providing a better ownership experience than the big 3 -- you never know. I am willing to bet, however, that people will probably have mixed reactions to the new design and people will probably harp over the new engine and how it's not as responsive as the 5.7, plus the first few years are always "testing" years to work out some issues.

    In my opinion, what I would weigh the most is which engine you would prefer. To me, this 5.7 is a classic engine. It's almost like buying a muscle car/truck at this point. I don't really like the eco boost and much prefer the coyote based on the characteristics and sounds it makes. The new engine will DEFINITELY be more fuel efficient as a daily driver, and as others have mentioned, weigh how much you will be driving the truck daily and if you can live with a 5+ better/worse mpg delta. Worst case scenario is that you keep your 3rd gen for 5 years and still have a great resale value that you can use to purchase the 4th Gen Tundra.

    For me personally, there is just something to be said about the last of the big V8 engines produced and getting to experience it before we no longer have any vehicles left with similar powerplants. I feel the same way about manual transmission..my other vehicle is an NC Miata btw :)

    I would plan on keeping it for a verrryyy long time and you will have a nostalgic buyer for that truck no matter what.
     
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    Is like the 2020 Supra, for 2021 they bumped up the power.

    In my opinion though, if they still sold the mk iv side by side with mk v for 50k. I know what I would get. :monocle:
     
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    I used to think that way, then I got my first turbo car. If I ever buy a performance car again (unlikely at this point in life) it will for sure be turbocharged. It's free power and works well whether you have 4 cylinders or 16.
     
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    Superchargers better turbos suck.
     
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    No One really knows yet what the new truck will even be so how can you compare what already is for sale with one that is completely unknown?

    If you need a brand new truck now then buy one now.
     
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    There is no doubt a turbo adds power, but a turbo will also shorten the lifespan of the engine when compared to the same engine that is normally aspirated.
     
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    That happens again and it'll fix the supply problem of the used Tundra market.
     
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    Only free if you can keep your foot out of it to keep the boost low. My brother's turbo Acura RDX gets fairly similar highway fuel economy to my truck.

    GM and Ford both know that a large displacement, pushrod NA engine gets better fuel economy under load (e.g. in a truck that's towing or hauling).

    Supercharging is definitely the way to go for a fun car.
     
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    Hi! I’m biased as I just bought a used 2017 Tundra Limited. But here are my thoughts:

    1. we don’t really know exactly what the 2022 is going to offer in terms of engine. However I personally prefer not to by the first year of a new redesign. Like to give it a few years to work out any quirks.

    2. the 5.7 L V8 is “old technology” but for me that is what I found appealing. Less new high tech components to possibly go out.

    3. I already have a daily driver that gets 30+ mpg around town that I have had for 17 years and I use regularly. The Tundra is my weekend fun and kid transporting vehicle. The gas mileage on the current tundra is less of an issue in my case.

    4. I really like that the current gen tundra is still just a heavy truck

    just my 2 cents
     
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    Superchargers rob power from the crank in order to produce more power. Turbochargers utilize existing, wasted power (Exhaust gas) to produce power. That's why it is "free".
     
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    If history tells us anything (I’m looking at you 3rd gen Tacoma) the first run of new generation vehicles are chock full of issues.

    I personally will be running my 5.7 until I can’t anymore. By then, years in the future, they will hopefully have the kinks ironed out of the new generation Tundra.
     
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    Never buy the first year for any model, unless you plan on being a collector of such things. Second model year vehicles always have design tweaks, to work out bugs from the first year model run, from nearly any manufacturer. For example, if you look at model year 2000 Chevy Suburban, it is a lemon. They misdesigned the brakes. 2001 Suburbans are not known as lemons, however.
    I also remember all the hype over the "all new" 6.0 Navistar Diesel Ford started using back in the 2000's... supposed to be the most powerful efficient Superduty ever, was more like super dooty:poking:
     
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