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Rear alignment - curb hit

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by DTAG10, Jan 21, 2025.

  1. Jan 21, 2025 at 8:17 AM
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    DTAG10

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    I hit a curb after spinning on a patch of ice in my neighborhood. Replaced the chipped wheel. Took to BrakesPlus who informed me they can't do anything about the rear alignment. Wanted this group's thoughts on potential fix...attached my numbers.

    For what it's worth - BrakesPlus didn't think the rear was that bad, but does recommend inner/outer tie rods and new control arms in the front due to seized cam/eccentric bolts.

    Any thoughts? I've spent a good chunk on this truck as it is. Thanks!

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  2. Jan 21, 2025 at 8:38 AM
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    There's no aligning the rear on these trucks. It's got a solid rear axle with leaf springs. If you hit hard enough to break a wheel, it's possible that you could have bent something like U-bolts or a leaf spring shackle. It's also possible that the leaf spring centering pin is sheared off if the U-bolts are bent or broken. I would hope that Brakes Plus would have informed you of any bent or broken rear assemblies, but it might be worth a look by another shop. If the cam bolts are seized, how did they align the front? Or, did they? BTW, all you gave us are the before measurements.
     
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  3. Jan 21, 2025 at 8:42 AM
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    You can't do anything about rear alignment, it's fixed, i.e. on a solid axle. What is there to align, exactly? Like, if your toe or camber were out, it'd mean your axle is bent.

    Siezed cam bolts up front is pretty typical, even in non-rust states like mine. Thing is, virtually all aftermarket cam bolts use nylon/plastic sleeves in the place of the OEM metal sleeves, and only seem to last for the first alignment, maybe two, before that plastic mushrooms/squashes. Those are what the shop would likely install.

    If it were me, I'd buy replacement OEM hardware, mark the current positions at both ends of the control arm adjustment cams (forward and back), then air hammer or cut out the old hardware and install the new, then realign to the marks.

    However, I'd go one step beyond that and write on the round flat part the position, as shown with markup, so you know which ws in that position. Then go back for alignment. PFW = passenger forward, PRR = passenger rear, and swap P for D on the driver side.

    You may want to buy OEM LCAs also, during the next big Toyota sale, and do it all at the same time.

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    The rear isnt too bad. Is the axle bent (rear wheel wobble)? If not, let it be.
     
  5. Jan 21, 2025 at 8:53 AM
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    ATBAV8 - I didn't do the alignment...just got the paperwork.

    No idea if the axle is bent. If it is - is there any fix?
     
  6. Jan 21, 2025 at 9:13 AM
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    Replacement. As others have said, get those areas checked first. The front alignment measurements go off of what the rear measures. It doesn't matter if the front is in the green or not if the rear is wrong to start with.
     
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    A bent axle shaft can be replaced, as can bent leaf springs or shackles. You can probably replace the whole axle housing cheaper than having an axle housing repaired.
     
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    The biggest thing is to get an assessment of what you're dealing with.

    Have you looked at everything under the truck to visualize if anything looks bent or misaligned?

    Did you want to take some pics and share with the group so we can give you opinions, or do you want to trust a low-budget chain store and whatever "talent" they have working there?

    It's been my experience you won't typically find overly-qualified wrenches working at places like that.
     
  9. Jan 21, 2025 at 10:04 AM
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    Yeah - Shifty - There's a good shop outside of Denver that I'm taking it to. They don't have an alignment machine yet, so the first step was to see if anything was misaligned. I'll be taking it in tomorrow.
     
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    Just seeing what the damage may be. Got a quote for $3k to replace leaf springs.
     
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    $3k too beaucoup. $500.
     
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    Hope they're using grease.
     
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    Anyone have a recommended shop in Denver? I can't do the work myself.
     
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    For 3k, @Sirfive and I will come up there and do it :rofl:
     
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  17. Jan 21, 2025 at 11:05 AM
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    For 1st gen suspension, Denver area?

    Toytec Lifts
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    Denver, CO 80229 They're also a board vendor and give board members 10% off I think?

    They speciailize in plenty of Toyota stuff. Why not overhaul your suspension while you're at it? $3,000 to replace the leaf springs, I reckon Toytec will probably set you up with 5100s all around, on OME 2884, for about that. Have them toss on their add-a-leaf kit in rear, and throw in some new cam adjusters and you're in business for the same price as the other shop :rofl:

    But yeah. I did my springs myself, working alone. Took me about 45 minutes per side, taking my time. Was it fun? NO. Was it difficult? I'd say moderately low difficulty for someone who wrenches occasionally. I paid $500 for new heavy duty leaf packs.
     

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