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Poll - New 2022 Tundra Owners Please Post Comments on Real World Mileage

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by borla123, Dec 22, 2021.

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Gas Mileage Expectation Gen 3 Tundra ? 17-city / 22 hwy /19 cmb (Votes can be changed later)

  1. I am achieving EPA ratings

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    30.1%
  2. I am not achieving EPA ratings

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    69.9%
  1. Jan 10, 2022 at 7:32 PM
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    Rwaters

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    I filled up today (I have the receipt in my truck) with 6 miles left until empty and I put a hair over 27 gallons in it.
     
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  2. Jan 10, 2022 at 7:36 PM
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    This isn't politics or an opinion poll.... o_O

    As I said...
    - mine gets better MPG in non freeway driving than it did on stock Bridgestones.
    - a bigger tire of the same design has less rolling resistance; shorter and wider contact patch = less casing distortion and less friction.
    - aerodynamics will suffer with a big tire, especially with a lift.
    - ATs usually suck for rolling resistance (MTs even more), but not all.
    - Tire weight has a tiny negative effect when accelerating. Probably ~2% of energy required, if you are going to big tires from stock on a Tundra. How much of the time do you spend accelerating vs cruising or slowing down? Plus, if you are coasting, that weight becomes a benefit.

    ... but you can believe what you like.
     
  3. Jan 10, 2022 at 8:07 PM
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    I mean typically a larger diameter tire usually is an M/T or A/T or just much wider. Your anecdotal evidence is you get better fuel economy off the highway so at lower rotational speeds. Energy ~ Ixx*w^2 and a larger, heavier tire will have a much larger rotational inertia so for any given rotational speed will require more energy to keep rotating and even more so at faster speeds. Also, estimating 2% loss due to tire size may be a decent approximation but it heavily depends on tire diameter and tire weight because again the torque necessary to spin a tire is a factor of Ixx and rotational acceleration. So if you try to accelerate at the same rate, a larger tire will require more torque to keep the same angular acceleration (thus increasing fuel consumption)

    I understand that larger tires (be it width or diameter) can have better rolling resistance due to difference in contact patch. But tire pressure can also do that (one reason why many German cars have tire pressure of 40 psi or more). Also reducing the weight supported by the tires can reduce rolling resistance.

    So what is your highway fuel economy compared to stock?

    I do a lot of city driving and a some stop and go traffic so I spend very little time on the highway. I think I would see a big drop in fuel economy switching from the 32” stock Bridgestone tires to the next size up 34” tires especially because the difference in weight for the same tire is 14 lbs per tire.
     
  4. Jan 10, 2022 at 9:13 PM
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    Nope, once it's reached speed it takes no additional energy to keep it spinning. It takes more energy to accelerate it but not to maintain. It's weird that people way overestimate this. I'm more familiar with racing bicycles (road) and for many decades it was believed that wheel weight was a thing that you absolutely needed to minimize. But it's easy to show it's trivial for bikes too, even for crits which have a lot of speed changes. They are going to bigger tires for road bikes now also, because they have less rolling resistance.

    My tires went from 37 to 74 lbs each! Just looked it up. I didn't realize it was that much.

    I'm not sure if highway MPG went up or down. At higher speeds wind direction, drafting, air density, hills, speed, etc all have a big affect. After I broke it in I didn't take many highway trips before I switched... I had a lot more shorter trips and around town. I've had a few tanks where nearly all of it was driving back and forth to a test venue, about half in town and half on secondary roads at < 60 mph. Also going back and forth to the nearest "big" town, that is ~2500 ft lower in elevation, where the speed is mostly in the 50-65 mph range. 18+ MPG typically in both those situations, and it was never that high with the Bridgestones. On the freeway going 75-80 it seems to average ~16, and I think it was slightly better before.
     
  5. Jan 10, 2022 at 9:44 PM
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    First fill up on mine, 14 mpg reported, 14 mpg calculated. Put ~24.5 gal into it. I improved my mileage in the second half and mostly last quarter of the tank. Too much trying to see how the thing performed. lol
     
  6. Jan 11, 2022 at 7:03 AM
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    Wow you clearly don't know physics then.

    You really REALLY think you got better mileage adding 40lbs to each tire? God damn that is the dumbest thing I have EVER read in my life.
    You say you get worse on the freeway and better in city... thus again contradicting yourself. Bruh whatever you're smoking I want some.

    EDIT: Just to clarify with you, at those speed ranges I am in the low 20s for mpg.

    You're the first person in the history of man that has broken physics and somehow managed to get better mpg by adding unsprung weight to a vehicle. Simply amazing.
    Better go hook up my trailer yall, I can get better MPG!
     
  7. Jan 11, 2022 at 7:11 AM
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    I guess toyota screwed up. They should have put 40s on it and got the best gas mileage ever.
     
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  8. Jan 11, 2022 at 8:18 AM
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    At the end of the day one thing is certain (so far). My 22 has not seen 18-24 like advertised, it been more like 16-17mpg
     
  9. Jan 11, 2022 at 8:45 AM
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    Too many, but not enough....
    All these people reporting mileage should be taken with a grain of salt. You never know where/how they are driving to report the mileage shown. I can get 23 mpg(I really do) in my V8 and snap a pic but you wouldnt know that I just drove 90 miles downhill from the top of a mountain then 65-70 mph on an open, flat highway without any traffic.
     
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  10. Jan 11, 2022 at 9:10 AM
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    I've been getting 16-17 average
     
  11. Jan 11, 2022 at 9:16 AM
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    I got over 30 MPG once on a 75 mile trip. 3500 ft elevation drop and 30 mph tailwind. Got < 10 MPG on the way back though.
     
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  12. Jan 11, 2022 at 9:19 AM
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    Too many, but not enough....
    Yup, the same scenario i mentioned going up the mountain i got like 12.5 lol.
     
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  13. Jan 11, 2022 at 9:28 AM
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    alpinepro4 What is your MPG Today!

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    Best I get is 16.9. In 4 wheel drive I get little over 12. I was in 4 for almost two weeks last month. Tundra now my daily till my new car shows up. Filling up every week:spending:
     
  14. Jan 11, 2022 at 9:38 AM
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    Pretty sure this thread is for 2022 Mileage reports…..
     
  15. Jan 11, 2022 at 9:39 AM
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    The sad part is.. you can't really tell 2022 posts and gen 2 posts apart LOL
     
  16. Jan 11, 2022 at 9:43 AM
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    I would have to agree with that. I never question what gen someone has. What’s funny is most MPG trash talk has come from the old bodies. All I’ve been saying about my 3rd GEN is the mpg isn’t what is expected
     
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  17. Jan 11, 2022 at 9:58 AM
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    Out of curiosity what were you expecting?

    I wouldn't mind having a 3rd gen--but I can't justify the jump coming from a 20.
    At first I didn't like it, saw it in person and was on the fence. Now I like it LOL
     
  18. Jan 11, 2022 at 10:01 AM
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    LED headlamps/fogs; interior footlamps.
    Not to mention Altitude, naturally aspirated loose 3% power for every 1000 ft of elevation... my 5.7 really sucks it trying to climb around say Vail area...
     
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  19. Jan 11, 2022 at 10:31 AM
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    Im not mad about it and I love the truck, but I was at least expecting the minimum EPA for daily driving and I’m about two under that. Who knows how much more it’ll drop once the leveling kit is installed (hopefully later today)
     
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  20. Jan 11, 2022 at 10:46 AM
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    borla123 [OP] 55 MPH = 18 MPG

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    As a snapshot to date and without people actually inputting numbers in Fuelly

    https://www.fuelly.com/car/toyota/tundra

    The impressions that I have gotten solely from the responses here is that;

    If the 2022 Tundra is driven without boost - like highway cruising - speed limit -lightly - the 2022 Tundra gets mileage like other 3.5 liter NA engine vehicles. But as soon as the heavy truck is pushed enough and boost is used it is around 16-17 mpg. About 15 L/100kms.

    Yes this is winter for many, colder temps, but this would also mean, that you are not loaded up, pulling a boat or trailer to a summer lake or campground...Yet ?

    Fair assumption?

    *************************************************************************

    Again for comparison only, from Fuelly, the previous Tundras average was 15 mpg.

    5 7 liter engine .jpg
     
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  21. Jan 11, 2022 at 10:47 AM
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    also keep in mind winter blend, that totally blows and kills the MPG
     
  22. Jan 11, 2022 at 2:21 PM
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    Go blow that smoke up someone else's ass, but here it isn't working
     
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  23. Jan 11, 2022 at 2:37 PM
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    He probably gets better mpg because he didn't recalibrate his speedo... and thinks the dash is correct LOL
     
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  24. Jan 11, 2022 at 2:41 PM
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    "This isn't politics" ...but this cat is missing a good chance at being a politician with the BS he comes up with- not sure who he's trying to convince to believe his BS, us or himself- the one thing for sure it didn't work on us!!
     
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  25. Jan 11, 2022 at 3:40 PM
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    Well shit! I missed the good mpg boat with my old Tundra. I should get a 2022 so I can get 2 to 3 mpg better than what I get now.
     
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  26. Jan 12, 2022 at 4:15 AM
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    The difference between the Toyota Tundra with the 3.5TT and a Ford F-150 with a 3.5TT is that the Toyota weighs a LOT more. They didn't put it on a diet like Ford did. From looking at door jamb placards it appears that there could be as much as 1,000 lbs. difference in weight between the two. There is no way a Toyota with 3.5TT is ever going to see the mileage that a Ford 3.5TT sees based on that alone, and the Ford has been notoriously low compared to EPA window sticker ratings.

    I'd never buy a twin turbo engine in a pickup truck expecting to get fuel economy out of it.
     
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  27. Jan 12, 2022 at 5:27 AM
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    borla123 [OP] 55 MPH = 18 MPG

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    ^^^^^
    Yes, Weight (Curb Weight and GVWR) directly affects mileage.
    As was asked in the original post please please indicate what weight you are carrying, or towing.
    This extra information will help others the most.


    ALSO Not to take this discussion sideways...

    Curb Weight
    2,310 to 2,550 kg Tundra
    1,824 to 2,274 kg Ford F150

    GVWR
    3,191 to 3,345 kg Tundra (28% - 24% more)
    2,726 to 3,243 kg Ford F150 (33% - 30% more)

    Numbers from internet. If wrong let me know and I will update.
    FWIW
    On paper the F150 outperforms but ....IMO.... take that with a grain of salt.
    There are no standards I know of for payload ratings (correct me if I am wrong) .....this means ...manufacturers set their own numbers.
    The Detroit 3 I have found like to brag more, push the limit, and set the numbers high.
    IMO Toyota sets payload ratings conservatively, because they are the manufacturer looking for reliability durability. Goes with the philosophy.
    For this reason also, I kind of chuckle at people that are concerned with Tundra payloads. You know, the sticker on the door.
    I can only assume they have never owned a 2.5 gen or earlier Tundra, exceeded payload and saw how stable it remained driving and getting to your destination.
     
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  28. Jan 14, 2022 at 9:54 AM
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    I’m new to a truck that calculates your fuel mileage. Curious do you need a dealer to calibrate the speedometer if you change tires size or is that automatic feature by some chance? And how accurate is the fuel mileage when you go from e10 to non ethanol gas? My scan gauge I had on my last truck needed recalibrated constantly to stay accurate.
     
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  29. Jan 14, 2022 at 10:03 AM
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    Excellent info. So we know now that there is about 5 gallons in reserve when "empty".

    Makes you wonder how much more useful range you can get out of it.

    When I get mine, I think I will willfully drive it until the tank goes dry just to see. I'll take 10 gallons in the bed with me when I try this, lol.
     
  30. Jan 14, 2022 at 10:11 AM
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    With how long the gas tank is I suspect if you drive under the empty mark you are in risk of starving the fuel pump. Specially if you park at the wrong incline like the previous gen.
     

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