Need some guidance on suspension

When I bought my 2019 Crewmax it came with a Pro Comp lift installed on the truck. I am not certain what the actual lift height is. I'm assuming it is a 4" lift but it could be a 5" and I'm pretty sure it is not a 6" lift. Here are a few pics.









Anyways I just put a fresh set of Wildpeaks on the truck and went to have it aligned and they said they couldn't align it because my front struts where leaking. I looked and they are indeed starting to leak. So I need to get new ones.

Since I'm getting new shocks I thinking that I would like to get rid of the spacer and pre load spacer that are currently on the truck and replace the shock with a coil over. I was originally thinking I could maybe go with Bilstein 6112 . I inquired about this to the guys over at Shock Surplus and they said they would work but if I wanted to get rid of the spacers I would be better off going with these 2.5 remote reservoir ICONS. The ICONS are quite a bit more expensive but the guys over at Shock Surplus said that ICON worked directly with Pro Comp and that they would have greater height adjustability over the Bilstein's. Anyways I'm not sure which way I should go. I was also looking at these coil overs from Freedom Offroad.

So there is quite a difference in the prices of these shocks and I just don't know enough about them to make an informed decision yet. So I'm hoping to get schooled a little here. I can afford the ICONS but I would say that that is probably as much as I would like to spend and would prefer to spend less if I could. The truck is my daily driver. I work as a contractor and use the truck for work so it is spends most of the time on pavement but I still take it off road now and then. It will see dirt roads and forest roads, some desert at moderate to fast speeds and very little if any rock crawling. I'm not limited to these three choices so if there is something better suited to what I need I'm open to it. I also haven't decided where to buy yet either so if you are a seller and can offer a good deal I'm open to that as well.

The Pro Comp lift is not how I would have chosen to lift the truck if I where doing it, like I say it was on the truck when I bought it. It does give me the clearance to run 295/60/R20's and it maintains the stock ride geometry so it does ride real nice on the road but since it is basically the stock geometry the lift doesn't give me any additional clearance beyond what I gain with the tires. So I'm wondering what advantages will I gain by removing the spacers and going with a coil over in this situation. Will it give me any performance gains?

Another thing I would like to know is since this lift kit has a larger knuckle that replaces the stock one is there anything to gain with going with an aftermarket UCA?

I would also appreciate any help in determining the height of the lift. I can take measurements needed to figure it out. I know that in the rear I have a 1" spacer block and the Pro Comp add-a-leaf spring with the stock shackle and the truck sits pretty level which is what leads me to believe it is a 4" lift but I don't know for sure.

So if there is anyone who could help me here I would greatly appreciate it and thanks.

 

This does look like the 4" lift based on that upper spacer size and rear suspension config. Aftermarket upper control arms add extra geometry adjustments to get camber and caster more in line. May help with tire rubbing if that's an issue. I am not a spacer fan. A single 1.5-2" spacer is meh, and gets you a cheap lift with only some minor drawbacks, mainly downtravel issues and some alignment issues. The double spacer stack you have is a no go for me. It would be like scabbing together 4x4 posts that are too short to build a deck. Does it hold the deck up? I guess, but I would be leery of it, and a solid post would be stronger, and better match the use from an engineering standpoint. Performance gains are absolutely there as the coilover will have more travel than the shorter factory shock, better control of the larger wheel and tire combo you have and handle offroad duties way better with a larger oil capacity that will stay cool longer than the smaller factory shock. If it remote resi, even more so. That being said, if a factory ride is your goal, the 6112s have a rep for being stiffer. The Icons are ell reviewed, and while potentially overkill for your usage, will ride much smoother based on reviews here than the 6112s. No experience with the Freedoms, can't even recall reading a post about them here, so maybe someone else can chime in on those. Also, let's see some pics of the truck!!

 

I need to get some better pics.

 

Nice truck. How do you like the decked toolbox?

for the lift height, you have to measure the distance between the lower control arm bolt and the subframe bolt above it. Thats how far down the lift dropped. Then meaure the spacer above the spring. It looks like an additional 2 inch lift preload spacer in the spring assembly as well

 

4.5 inch Fox are your best bet.

https://bds-suspension.com/product-display?sr=fox 2.5

 

If you go with 2.5 Icon/Fox/etc, you will need new upper control arms to clear them.
Smaller shock like Bilsteins would clear existing UCA.

Leaking shock doesn't affect alignment if you really need an alignment right now.
Not aligning does save money for now since you'd want to realign after installing new shocks anyway. If new shocks put it back to same height, it won't affect alignment enough to matter.

 

Do not align it before getting shocks. The new shocks could be slightly different than existing, not worth re doing it

 

Thanks. The Decked tool box is OK. There are things I like about it and things I don't. I like the weight savings and the way it looks. The capacity is good and it is pretty durable. Things I don't like are the actual lock. It's a cheap off the shelf type postal lock that takes some messing with to get it to unlock some times. Also the lid kind of has a bow to it that makes it hard to get both sides to lock without slamming the lid or going to both sides of the truck to make sure both sides have locked. Yea so I think they need to do some work with their locking mechanism but other then that it's good.

I'm not sure about what you are saying with regards to the bolts. The preload spacer is 1-1/4", I know that and I think the one above it is about 2" but I haven't measured that one to be sure but I will.

 

Wow the shocks for the 7" lift are only $1600.00 a pair while the shocks for the 4.5" lift are $2100.00 a pair. I wonder why that is. Yea those are nice.

 

Ok. That's good to know. Any recommendations?

 

the shorter one is an adjustable shock. Its a lot of shock if youre not wheeling hard

 

I've been looking into my options here and I think it's come down to either this one or the Icon that the guys over at shock surplus suggested. The Icon is designed to fit a 6" pro comp bracket lift according to the Icon web site. It doesn't say anything about fitting a 4" lift. The guys at Shock Surplus assured me that they come set up for 6" but can be set for 4". OK.

I prefer the Fox coil overs to the Icons but when I inquired with BDS this is what they told me.

I don't know. To me that answer seemed a bit lazy. I don't see why they wouldn't work. I sent AccuTune an E-mail but it's been several days now and haven't heard anything back from them. I want to get this done and don't really want to wait any longer so it seems to me that the Fox's from BDS is probably my best bet. The Icon's are currently out of stock everywhere and won't be available for about six weeks. There is nothing on the BDS website that would indicate that they are out of stock so my question to you is, what do you think?

Is there really any reason why these wouldn't work that you can think of? I searched by the part number listed over at BDS web site on the Fox web site and it comes back as not found in Fox catalog so I assume that is because they are made for BDS exclusively. One thing I'm finding out is that Fox doesn't list any coil overs for the Tundra's that will accommodate a 4" bracket lift on their web site. The longest ones they list are for a 3" lift. So unless AccuTune responds by tomorrow with a solution (that I can afford) BDS might be my only way to put Fox coil overs on my truck with out having to rip my whole lift kit out and putting it back to stock and starting over. Since you suggested these to me I was hoping to get your take on this. Should I get them?[/QUOTE]

 

This might really be the best option as putting back to stock will require welding in a new cross member. I have read that most shops won't touch something like that as Toyota does not sell a replacement.

 

Fortunately my lift is only a stage one kit that doesn't cut the stock crossmember out so my factory crossmember is still intact. I could still go back to stock but I would need to buy some stock knuckles though. I just don't want to spend that much money.

 

I actually just helped a buddy revert his truck from a bds kit to stock. They have the crossmember available. Shop knocked it out in a few days and added a camburg mid travel kit.

 

Something to think about. I don't need the crossmember mine was never cut out. I would need new knuckles though.

 

This is the way.