Is the Tundra Hybrid worth it?

I'm trying to choose between a Tundra and F150 and I'm wondering if the Tundra Hybrid is really worth the extra $$ to get it. In the F150, you can get an XLT hybrid if you want it and it really isn't too much extra compared to the non hybrid. The Tundra equivalent to the XLT is the SR5, but to get a hybrid you have to move up to a Limited. By the time I finish that build the truck, although admittedly nicer, is about $11K more than the SR5 and the F150 XLT Powerboost (both of which are about $58K). Is the hybrid Tundra really worth that much extra?

 

What's the benifit...more power. Im sure it's lots heavier and you loose storage under thr seat. Seems some state charge for hybrid vehicle during re-registration time.

 

Yes

 

No, unless heavy towing

3400 for loss of storage, no performance gains (except heavier towing), more to maintain and replace

so unless heavier towing and needed torque increase is needed, then pass

 

You should drive both. I thought I might miss the power from the hybrid, but after test driving the non-hybrid, I was sold. Non-hybrid has gobs of torque down low and feels great pressing the throttle. I just don’t think the benefits of the hybrid are worth the trade-offs mentioned.

Even if price was the same, I would have to really think about it if I had to make the decision again.

 

Some people would argue that increased horsepower and torque = performance gains

 

Depends on if it more than offsets the weight difference. Additional weight also wears brakes faster.

 

Which they have mods some to get those hybrid gains and save the weight. I still get grab the idea of what those batteries even do.

 

And they have mods for the hybrid also for more power.. The batteries are for the hybrid system, it's pretty clear what they do.

 

If you get the hybrid toyota you also get the benefit of not being under the recall if your motor goes. While the chance is close to 0, there is still a chance.

 

The one thing without have done research on the Hybrid system. Was i thought I would do better with MPG. Wrong on that for the Tundra. I see other model get way more MPG. Why not just up the power in the actual motor and no with the Hybrid system. Would it not save on build time and cost?? And for cost for buyers.

 

Depends on your wants and needs. The hybrid systems on the Tundra and the F-150 are really geared towards gains in towing and not fuel efficiency so from a purely financial POV if you do some serious towing it's probably worth the extra money but for the typical user its probably not. You will hear a lot of performance opinions regarding the differences between the two but we are literally talking less than a second difference in most everything that I have read. If you're really looking for performance then I would suggest a Corvette or one of those cool looking new Chargers.

 

For me…. I’m not towing a huge travel trailer or backhoe. My non-hybrid pulls my smaller trailer like it’s not even there. The batteries Toyota uses are of a type that are less expensive than some hybrids, but around 100,000 mi battery replacement will may be probable… don’t want to have to think about that !

 

ya the numbers dont match that from what I’ve seen, except towing , but whatever floats the boats , they lost me at no storage again, my gen 2.5 had 0 storage so I wasn’t going back to that

 

The hybrid was never a consideration for me.

 

I’ll just say I wouldn’t try to talk you out of it.

Toyota fanboy? Yeah, just do it. You WILL love it.

On the surface of it, it doesn’t make logical sense, but that’s not what we’re really talking about, are we?

 

I considered, but it just didn’t seem worth it.

Cost, weight, storage, increased reliability risk…

…vs marginal efficiency increase, marginal performance increase, anything else???

 

I have a 2017 Tacoma now with 35K miles. It will tow 6500 lbs, which works for everything I've been towing up till now. About a year ago, we moved to a farm and I now have a Kubota L Series tractor, with a backhoe and front loader, that I'm going to need to tow once in a while. Putting that on a two axle trailer gets you up into the 7-8K range, too much for my Taco. This is what is pushing me to upgrade.

On the farm, we have a long, gravel driveway and hills in the fields (I'm in SW VA). We get snow and ice here as well. I also tow a utility trailer and a horse trailer.

So, basically, I need a truck that can handle some off road and frequent, occasionally heavy, towing. And, naturally, I'd like the gas mileage to be "acceptable". I also want the truck to be available, not in the shop. That's more about having it available to use, not the cost, I realize warranty will cover most of the cost.

I am not sure if I need power in the bed, although that does sound useful for using tools or in the fields.

By the way, although I have a Taco, I had a Ranger before that (for 20 years), so I'm not really biased towards Toyota (although I do think of them, maybe except for the early gen 3 engines, as more reliable).

 

The bed outlet is a measly 400 watts. It works for charging small batteries, or maybe some camp lights, but it's woefully inadequate for any power tools.

 

Hybrid all the way if you want power and speed. I wanted a raptor before but the hybrid scratched that itch for now.

 

It’s a definite yes the hybrid is way better

 

Hybrid. It trains you for the bearing seizure - nothing better than going 60 and seeing rpm drop to zero- decision time - hold the coarse or head for the shoulder.

All seriousness, I purchased my Tundra for towing 7000+ so went hybrid - no regret. A side benefit - no throttle lag.

 

Yeah, that 4/10 of a second faster 0-60 mph time for the hybrid is a game changer. LOL.

 

I think I saw it’s actually slower in the 1/4 when the weight gets to it

it’s for towing and pulling assistance to get the load going , that is all folks

 

It's fun to outrun a non-hybrid from redlight to redlight.

Plus, I wanted a Pro, so there is no other option.

 

To me the juice wasn't worth the squeeze.
I find mine to be plenty quick, and have more than enough power to tow whatever I need.

And I have rear underseat storage!

 

I love my hybrid.

 

Too much power for most.
Most get groceries and hit the koa in their tundra.

Do not need power for koa.

 

Try pulling a trailer full of crotch rockets and tools and thumping fwd like jet engine on a hwy. It's pure bliss. Once you go hybrid, you don't go back. Haters gonna hate lol.

 

A few things to keep in mind:

1. The powerboost is THE most problematic F150 power train. Lots of issues and recalls, and any F150 from 2021 on has that iffy transmission.
2. The hybrid in the Toyota is not for MPG. Get that whole idea of fuel economy out of your head if you're towing a bunch. You'll get shit mileage. Period. If empty/not towing the hybrid does not give anything major in economy. Its not built for that and the battery doesn't last long enough for major fuel economy payoff.
3. The Tundra has better interior build quality and fewer body gap issues, in my experience.
4. Toyota's infotainment system is borderline retarded when compared to Ford's. The layout, tech, camera controls, and features in my F150 were a decade ahead of what my Tundra has, and my Tundra is a higher trim than the F150 was.

All in all, if you are doing ranch stuff and towing a horse trailer I would suggest a 3/4 ton gasser.