Great AT tires that are lighter than Falken

I just want to start off by saying I absolutely love Falken Wildpeaks. Love AT tires in general but it must be great quality and work the way I need it. I’ve had the new AT4Ws for a few months now. It has excellent traction, ride, handling, and nice offroad abilities. The only thing I don’t like is the weight. I feel like my truck doesn’t accelerate off the line as fast as it did when I had my old 42 pound tires a few years ago. I have the P rated tires but they weigh 48.6 pounds which only .3 pounds less than the sucky AT3Wa I replaced these with. The AT3s, while only weigh roughly 1lb less, would have been ok but they discontinued.

Basically, what I’m asking is what AT tires could I get that’s lighter, great in rain, snow, off-road and is durable? I’ve been researching tires and reading reviews. I really wish I can find some great ones that weigh no more than 46 pounds.

 

You're kind of hunting a unicorn. If it's durable enough for off-road it's likely due to being thicker, and that is going to be heavier.

That said, to find lighter tires for you we need more than just the weight. What size tires are you currently running?

 

6lbs a corner isn’t nothing, but it’s not that dramatic. Most are adding 20lbs a corner when they upsize for aftermarket meats. 48lbs for an AT that is factory size for these trucks is pretty OK.

 

275/65R18. Thought about
20s or 22s but changed my mind.

 

Plus my avg mpg went down to 13.1 from 13.8. Guess that’s ok…

 

Doesn’t exist. Want a lighter tire, you have to step down to a P rated passenger tire.

 

He said his are P rated.

 

Oh. Well if he can feel low on power from that, sounds the truck needs a tune up or is low on compression.

The tire @NickG is looking for definitely doesn’t exist then lol

 

Well, I’ll say it like this. Let’s say I’m driving in traffic. It lags behind a little then all of a sudden it has bursts of power and I’m passing most people that left me in the dust at first. It’s actually kind of funny.

 

That's not likely the tires.

 

Look up the top 3-5 tires you’d be happy to buy in that size and compare the weights?

 

Maybe I lost a little low end torque but top end shines.

 

That doesn’t sound like a tire issue. Sounds like either a transmission/torque convertor, fueling, injector, or pump issue.

 

So if it’s the trans/torque converter, could it be an issue with 1st/2nd gear? Normally when I accelerate it’s like 2,000-2,500 when I’m not putting my foot down too hard. No issues with it engaging in drive or reverse from park. I know the fluid hasn’t been replaced for quite some time and I do moderate amount of towing. I normally have my fuel injectors cleaned every 45k miles. Not sure about the pump.

 

I went to Nokian AT tires last time, due to their lighter weight, so check them out. I see better acceleration, MPG and ride with 35 inch Nokian ATs than I did with 33 inch Wildpeaks. Both of these were E load btw.

Saving any unsprung weight, such as tires, wheels, has more impact than sprung weight and that translates into better performance and MPG. A 3 to 5lbs weight savings on wheel and or tire is significant and something you will notice. At least I did, 1-2+ bump in MPG for me.

 

275/65R18 Vredestein Pinza AT is 43 lbs. As good as a mild AT tire could be. I have them on my Volvo and I do not plow my driveway.

I'll be putting them on wife's 22 Sequoia when she wears out her stock Michelins LTX.

 

I remember the Bridgestone dueler revo 3 was really light for E Load in 295/70r18 when I was looking. Looks like the Load E in 275/65r18 is 47.8 lbs which is pretty light for an E range. The P rated 275/65r18 is only 41.9 lbs.

 

I can't understand how the AT4W's are so heavy, it almost makes me question the weights on their website and if they are accurate. I'd really like to try a set but in nearly every size I've considered, they are heavier than Toyo AT3's, K02/3's.

 

Quick search on a third party site so double check but,
275/65-18 tires under 50 lbs:

40lbs Michelin LTX AT2
42 lbs Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 3
44lbs Cooper Discoverer AT3 4S

Had a buddy with the Discoverers on his Jeep that swore by them in the winter.

 

This is an amalgam of all terrain tires in size 275/65R18 from lightest to heaviest. Jumping from an SL up to XL, C, or E load range "significantly" increases weight. I know a lot of people like the Toyo Open Country's. New from Cooper that piqued my interest are the Discoverer Road + Trails. Lots of options but there's always trade offs.

 

So I had an interesting phone conversation with someone at Toyo yesterday... I was looking at the AT3's (stock size) and it was showing a C range and E range as being the same weight.

Figured it had to be a typo, but the Toyo rep said that the C range (which was a black sidewall) are made in the US, while the E range (raised white letters one side) are made in Japan.

Said the Japanese rubber is lighter... same compound but lighter.

Might've sounded like BS but (I'm an avid surfer) I've already heard similar things about wetsuits made from Japanese neoprene.

 

Just installed some General Grabber ATX SL rated this time. What a major difference in ride and acceleration. Previously had ATX in E rating, tires weighted 58 lbs a tire. SL weight 46 lbs. Will see how durable SL rated tires is.

 

I think I'm getting E-rated AT/X again. Just such a good tire.

 

They are an awesome tire. ATX SL tires I have been very impressed with so far. Ride is much nicer than E rated tire.

 

I had the Cooper Discoverer Rugged Trek P275/60R20 on my last truck and I LOVED them. 20K miles and I couldn’t see any wear. They did GREAT in the mud, too. They were quiet on the road and had a great look to them too. When I bought my Tundra and upsized the tires to 35x11.5, the dealer couldn’t locate that size in stock, so I went with another brand reluctantly.

The Coopers are also made in the U.S. in Tupelo, Mississippi.

 

@alpinepro4 do the SL’s versions have different sidewalls or shallower tread depth? Pretty tired of E rated K02’s and really rough ride on gravel roads. Any noticeable roll on corners at highway speed?

 

The AT4W is probably the same as the AT3W, I’m sure you can confirm on their website quick.


Their marketing is a bit deceptive. The LT version had the deepest tread depth in the category. Deeper than the SL version. The SL version had the softer rubber compound they advertise for winter performance. Softer than the LT version.


While very close to the same, they’re really two different tires for two different use cases (if you want better wear life and deeper tread depth vs the most stick in the snow) and you can’t get the best of both (even though they’re advertised loosely this way).

 

I have P rated Mickey Baja Boss AT on a wrangler. They are a good tire in dry and rain, decently quiet for an all terrain and are wearing fairly well.