Eibach lift DC 4wd

Looking to put about about 2 inches on the front of my tundra but I’d rather not go with 5100s. I’ve read a lot of great reviews on Eibach and I’m leaning towards them based on comments vs the 5100s saying they’re a better ride. My issue is using stock springs with the Eibach shocks. Will using stock springs produce a quality ride if I move the clip up? Can I use Eibach springs made for a 4wd Sequoia. I haven’t found a ton of post of DC 4wds using Eibach. Any suggestions would help.

 

Is there a reason you're opting not to go with Bilstein, knowing that was the 'upgrade' manufacturer Toyota chose for their OEM? Just curious more than anything.

w/Eibach, which btw is a brand I love and have used a lot over the years, I seem to recall they supposedly don't make anything for 4WD. I would think if it was as-easy as getting another Eibach spring that fits, the manufacturer would sell that product already?

 

According to the minimal research I’ve done Eibach has a “softer” ride than Bilstein. But most of the reviews I've seen have been on different vehicles that can be paired with an Eibach spring.

 

If you want a soft ride, go with Monroe. If you want OEM ride, go with KYB or Bilstein 4600s.

I think you'll find the vast majority of guys on here with 5100s love the ride, and find it to be a great balance, not too soft, not to harsh. Like everything, beyond the brand, it's mostly about what spring you pair it with and how the shock itself is valved.

If you're deadset on Eibach, I'd honestly call them and ask them. But don't ask them what spring you should use, instead "what's a compatible 700lb spring for this setup?"

I swear Toytec sells this exact Eibach kit with a 700lb spring. Have you checked their website?

 

I went with the eibach pro truck lift kit stage 1 for my 2005 DC 2WD, honestly no complaints. I got about 2.5 inches from the lift kit and then added 1 coachbuilder 1/4" shim (1/2" actual lift) on the drivers side to fix the lean. I got the full lift kit for $650 off of Elite Race Fab. Which btw is a great company

 

2nd vote for Elite Race Fab. Got my Eibach upper control arms (SPC arms in an Eibach box) there for like $500-something bucks about 10 months ago.

 

I almost thought the company seemed to good to be true, but they came through. Their customer service is top notch as well

 

I paired an Eibach 2 inch spring on a set of 4600's (standard TRD)and it road REALLY nice with just the right amount of lift for stock rear height. However this was a 2017, fwiw.

 

My eibach shocks froze in the lower control arm and now I have to cut one side out. Happened to Isami also. Id' avoid just for that reason.

 

To get a 2" lift and a soft ride you'll need to install a 4" lift.

or kings. I was really impressed with the comfort of @DJenerated's truck

 

Soft ride? Shiiit put some taller 600lb coils on from OME for like a 2nd gen Tacoma... Super soft OME 883 I believe lol

But seriously for a DC, you want a 2 inch lift and soft ride?

Just buy stuff for our trucks specifically with the 650lb coils for RC and AC, because the 700lb coils are technically recommended for DC regardless of armor. But there's probably a reason the experts recommend 700lbers on a DC... So play with those lower spring rates at your own risk.



Where as I have 700lbers on my AC because I'm fully armored

 

Toytec used to get all their coils from Eibach. Not sure if that's still the case
Eibach coils paired with 5100's was a popular option back in my first gen Tacoma days about a decade ago


If you value your truck and your money, if you want lift:
DO NOT waste your time and money on KYB or Monroe or Rough Country, or Pro Comp, or Sky Jacker or Rancho

Also need to mention PreLoad.
Preload is when you move the clips up the 5100's for more lift, which also makes them stiffer.
Same concept on any adjustable shock, with threaded shock bodies or if they have the clips like Bilstein. More Preload always means a little stiffer ride.

5100's on the bottom clip paired with a taller 700lb coil in theory should not only be the most cost effective measure, but sould also be a nice ride for a DC wanting a small lift. Other great options being OME nitro shocks paired with OME coils. Just make sure you pick the right spring rate and length coils for what you want before you buy. When in doubt, call the company. They should be able to assist you with the little details. All I can do is steer you in the right direction and give my experiences from 3 of my Toyotas, 4 different suspension setups and about 13 years of reading Toyota forums. I'm not the end all be all expert. But I try my best.

Lastly if you don't care about the costs? Then get that King bling baby! But never forget to buy aftermarket off road upper control arms with any lift over 2 inches

 

I guess I should've put a sarcasm tag on that Monroe suggestion, eh? Newbie probably wouldn't catch on I'm rolling my eyes as I type it.

Yes, I would avoid Monroe (waaay too fucking soft) and Rancho (not engineered for 1GT's Achilles LBJ/LCA stress), and I would never consider Rough Country for anygoddamnthing because you can pay 10% more in a lot of cases and roll Bilstein for those dollars, if not the same amount.

 

Thank you for reminding me about Rancho. I knew I was forgetting something.

 

Damn, that's a bummer man. Excuse my lack of knowledge, but when you say froze in the lower control arm, does that mean the bolt holding the shock to the LCA seized?

 

Exactly. They have a metal sleeve on the inside of the rubber bushing and that froze to the bolt.

 

As in they rusted together?

https://youtu.be/gRO4RGm4rbg

 

Yep

 

Happened to another one of the guys on here with his rear shocks recently. @Jack McCarthy was that you?

 

Yeah, that was my rear shock though. I like the method he used though to get the rubber bushing out to heat the sleeve.

 

That's what I said.

 

Must've glossed over that.

 

Sounds like a rust issue.

 

At least for mine, the shocks are less than 2 years old and I'm in CO, so not rust. One side was fine and the other wasn't.

 

Thanks everyone for the replies!