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Discussion in '2.5 Gen Builds (2014-2021)' started by dittothat, Apr 24, 2020.

  1. Sep 8, 2022 at 7:44 PM
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    Very nice build!
     
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  2. Sep 8, 2022 at 9:33 PM
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    Thanks! :hattip:
     
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  3. Sep 9, 2022 at 11:20 AM
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    Paging @RainMan_PNW and @Terndrerrr. Was driving home last night and Nils from TC USA drove by in his gladiator and I noticed he had a Yakima rack in the back. Thought to myself “hmm, that doesn’t seem right” and dropped by there today before lunch. Turns out they have a new HD rail system (not like my old Yakima rails) that works with the Yakima overhaul HD rack (and I assume outpost, too). Has a skirt that goes around the landing pad area and looks really nice. Sorry, forgot to grab a photo of it on the gladiator. Give them a call if you’re interested. I can also go back and grab a photo if you need me to. It still sits above (ie, not built in like retrax) but better than nothing. I asked about creating rails like retrax and they said no plans.

    while I was there the nice ladies gave this to me for free since my old one snapped off
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    I’ve known about that HD rail offering since April when I was talking with Kim about it. I want it, but am trying to decide if I want to try the DIY version or spring for new side rails altogether.

    My only complaint about their entire system is that they didn’t set up their mounting to use the factory bed rails. I don’t like the relocation brackets because the rails aren’t nearly as sturdy… but I’m leaning toward switching to cargo tie-down rails like they use in cargo planes instead - it would be low profe enough to keep in the original factory position.
     
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  5. Sep 10, 2022 at 4:55 AM
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    I’ve been emailing Kim about that system. She hasn't sent me any pics though. I’d love to see it.
    Totally agreed. I wish they’d make brackets that work with the OEM rails. I still use the rails’ mounting holes for other stuff. My shovel and axe bracket is mounted using those holes. You could also mount cleats or D loops.

    You can get different lengths of rails here. Are these what you mean?
     
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  6. Sep 10, 2022 at 7:03 AM
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    Yep
    L-Track
    I couldn’t remember the name last night
    I had it mounted on the floor of my bed in my 2008 and it was handy. I’ve got D-rings on my floor now, but thinking of using L-track for rails. You can attach the tie-offs anywhere instead of the “entry from the end” design of the factory ones
     
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  7. Sep 10, 2022 at 7:29 AM
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    I’ll run over there next week and grab a photo for you
     
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  8. Sep 16, 2022 at 5:23 PM
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    Picked up a new-to-me prinsu
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    And still need to run over and get the rack photos for the guys. I’ll put it in my reminders
     
  9. Sep 16, 2022 at 5:25 PM
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    TRDFerguson It’s funny because it’s bigger than a normal hat.

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    If only you had a light bar to go up there :boink:
     
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  10. Sep 16, 2022 at 5:27 PM
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    :rofl:


    But, in negotiations for a Heretic :anonymous:

    or maybe DD wants to sponsor me and hand over a 50” :D
     
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    You don’t have to do that. But it would be great. For some reason she never sent me a pic and wanted to discuss it over the phone.
     
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  12. Sep 16, 2022 at 5:44 PM
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    TRDFerguson It’s funny because it’s bigger than a normal hat.

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    Paging @memario1214
     
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  13. Sep 16, 2022 at 5:51 PM
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    It's like a mile down the road from my work. Will be a nice walk for me during lunch break :thumbsup:
     
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  14. Sep 17, 2022 at 12:49 PM
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    Lol Nick knows where to find me :spy:
     
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  15. Sep 19, 2022 at 11:26 AM
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    ICS dash plate, wired up power plug and mounted old school Inreach
     
  16. Sep 19, 2022 at 11:29 AM
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    TRDFerguson It’s funny because it’s bigger than a normal hat.

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    I like the fart bubble icon

    But that thing is definitely vintage haha
     
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  17. Sep 19, 2022 at 11:40 AM
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    :rofl: that’s how the messages get out to the satellites.

    originally was going to go with the mini like you but found this guy for 30 bucks so gave it a shot. She’s a big girl but works as it should. Just a taddddd bit clunky.

    Figured it’s a hell of a lot easier to teach a 4y/o how to push “the red button” than: take my cell phone, walk to the top of a mountain and dial 911
     
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  18. Sep 19, 2022 at 5:11 PM
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    Have a list of ~20 things that need to get done to get the truck to a current state with all the parts in the garage. Had a goal of getting 8 done today; completed 3. Need to Super Mario level up one of these days and get everything done ..:1up:

    After the dash plate, I got around to running the wire from the battery to the bed for the MPPT.
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    Then made a board for the inverter so it’s not just shoved in the toolbox
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    Baby steps..
     
  19. Sep 20, 2022 at 12:49 PM
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    Nobody home at TCUSA so a little disappointed I couldn’t grab a photo. Try again tomorrow.

    Decided to cheer myself up by installing seat jackers
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  20. Sep 21, 2022 at 11:18 AM
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    Here you go lads
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  21. Sep 21, 2022 at 11:56 AM
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    Thank you for posting those pics! Now that I see it, I’m not sure it’s something I want to do.

    This looks like the bulk of the weight of the rack is not supported by the bedside itself. It’s centered on the TCUSA side rail, which is not centered over the bedside.

    I’ve already had my TCUSA’s drivers side rail sag or droop toward the middle of the bed. I was able to fix it by tightening the clamps that mount the rails to the bedsides, but still. Unless there’s a lot more support we can’t see than the clamps my bed cover has underneath the side rails, the design doesn’t necessarily inspire confidence with a heavy load like an occupied tent.
     
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  22. Sep 21, 2022 at 12:47 PM
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    Here is what I’m referring to. The inside of the TCUSA rail was drooping. I would think that a bunch of added weight would make this happen regularly. But maybe the rails and rack come with more support or more clamps underneath?
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    Completely agree with you. I think this setup is more for running a rack with rotopax, solar panels, shovels, propane tank, extra suitcases, etc. but not a RTT. Unfortunately, the way the TCUSA rails are designed the Yakima rails need to be centered on them. Too far from on one side and you’re in the area that sits over the bedside; too far the other way and you’re drilling into the channel that the cover runs along. Casey and I had an in-depth conversation about this exact same issue before I mounted my rack and decided to bolt it into the bedside. Im pretty confident I could run a RTT on mine (can shake the entire truck by pushing on the rack), but not sure I want to put that much mass so high up. If I wanted to run just a rack for accessories, I’d probably do just what TCUSA has done here and feel pretty confident with it. Anyway, just my $.02 :notsure::rofl:
     
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    Yup, mine droop, too. And this Jeep’s did as well. Would be curious to see if Retrax do as well.

    Not sure about extra supports but I’d venture to say probably not
     
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    I haven’t looked closely at the retrax ones. I know my TC ones droop, and my previous one on my 2008 did too.

    I struggle with having the front rack setup that far from the cab. I don’t run the tool box, so I’d rather have my rack extend toward the cab more. I like the modularity of the Yakima racks, but feel like the function and utility is limited compared to true “overland” racks out there.

    Ultimately, I’m leaning toward using something like the Voodoo tonneau mount installed under the TC rails. Put the front posts under the canister area and the rear ones toward the back.
     
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    I have a set of the voodoo mounts I took off when I went with the retrax
     
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    I was going to mention that. I talked with @KB Voodoo about it a while back in another thread, but I haven't heard of anyone using those with a TC cover. Would love to see how well it works.
     
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    So going off this for you and @RainMan_PNW I’ll have to get some measurements for you. I believe, if memory serves correctly, the voodoo brackets are 6mm thick. Mine are 4.5mm (had already cut my voodoos and looked all over for second hand ones. Too bad I didn’t know @SAGE63 had some :facepalm:) and my rails just barely sit flush. Had to squish them pretty good and remove the weather stripping to get them to sit down. I think if you were to put another 1.5mm on there they’d be popping up a bit. I’d be willing to bet the canister would be sticking up. But if you can live with a mm or two, then that’s definitely a great option. Just something to keep in mind ..
     
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    I also used a strip of foam weather stripping to prevent the gaps. here are the kb voodoo brackets I have PM for price if interested

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    Are those clamp-on or do the mount to the factory bed rails? With the TC USA Cover, the factory rails have to be lowered and won’t work with anything that relies on them to be at factory location
     

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