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Decision time! Falcon, Fox, or King

Discussion in 'Suspension' started by bkdelux, Jan 23, 2021.

  1. Jan 23, 2021 at 7:09 PM
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    bkdelux

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    Hi friends,

    So, I'd love some advice. My new Tundra arrives next week and I want to immediately add either a leveling kit and wheels and tires. I'm bouncing between the Falcon sport, tow, haul, King 2.5's with adjusters, same in Fox, or a full blown Fox lift kit that includes the following.


    • Front 880-06-947 extended length front Coilovers with DSC
      Includes spanner wrench for adjustment.
      883-26-006 2.5″ Factory Series Reservoir Rear Shocks with DSC Adjuster
      87500 Total Chaos Uniball Upper Control Arms
      TAC-AL-LA Rear Toytec Add-A-Leafs
      TU-DR-07 Toytec Front Differential Drop kit
      TTCB Toytec Carrier Bearing drop spacers

    I live in Texas will do some off roading, camping, hunting, etc. But truly just want the most fun ride all around. Would appreciate any input and advice.
     
  2. Jan 23, 2021 at 7:13 PM
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  3. Jan 23, 2021 at 7:14 PM
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    LOL, great, thanks for helping me narrow it down. So what ADS kit?
     
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  4. Jan 23, 2021 at 7:16 PM
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    2.5 front and rear with remote resi and clickers.
    Any uniball UCA.
    Rear leaf expansion pack
     
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  5. Jan 23, 2021 at 7:47 PM
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    Save some money get the falcons and use the money you save for one of the other 371 mods you’re going to end up doing.

    Theres no finish line here :O
     
  6. Jan 23, 2021 at 7:53 PM
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    I've heard great things about the Falcon OEM but wonder if I'll regret not spending another $3k. Falcons are $1500 but I can get a whole Fox kits with adjustable 2.5's and leafs for around $4300. I wish there were more reviews or feedback from folks that installed Falcon.
     
  7. Jan 24, 2021 at 9:24 AM
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    Buy the Falcons and save...if you don't like 'em, I'll buy them from ya and you can spend the extra dough in the Fox setup...but I bet you'll find them a solid option without regret...I just see a win-win situation with more things to be done/can be done with the Falcon setup!
     
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  8. Jan 24, 2021 at 9:50 AM
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    Only downside to the falcons is they use your stock springs. So no way to get them pre assembled
     
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  9. Jan 24, 2021 at 10:06 AM
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    This is how i'm leaning for sure. The reviews I've read are very solid.
     
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  10. Jan 24, 2021 at 10:07 AM
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    Yep, I've already resigned myself to the fact that I'm going to pay someone to install. I got a fair quote for wheels, tires, and suspension install.
     
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    Tastefully enhanced...
    90% of those getting lifts generally are not performing the install themselves... so it's a moot point in my opinion
     
  12. Jan 24, 2021 at 10:09 AM
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    Yea depends on the install costs in your area.
     
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  13. Jan 24, 2021 at 10:09 AM
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    ADS is essentially King racing shocks. They are designed to be hammered on. Excellent top notch suspension.
     
  14. Jan 24, 2021 at 11:00 AM
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    I'd rank King last as far as higher end shocks, in my (and friends) experience their material coatings are significantly behind other people's. Even if you're not in snow country much, I'd lean away from them since all the ones (including the ones currently on my truck) start rusting and pitting the shafts pretty fast. I also disagree with 14burrito, I would not buy uniballs if you can avoid it. Uniballs dont last that long, they inevitably squeak (regardless how new and lubed/clean they are), and seem to be more expensive than ball joints. The camburg ball joint UCAs look almost identical and have the benefits of being a sealed joint. There's a time and place for uniballs, but for a mid travel setup they don't have any benefits imo.

    If it was me I'd get the full Fox setup with some Camburg balljoint UCAs (or equivalent). I've never been around a Falcon setup, but heard good things, so no comment in regards to them.
     
  15. Jan 24, 2021 at 11:55 AM
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    About 80k on my original uniballs on Burg arms. Little squeaky here and there, otherwise been kosher and the squeak can be "eliminated" with little maintenance.

    The DJ can be fit into almost any uniball arm available as well FWIW.
     
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  16. Jan 24, 2021 at 12:45 PM
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    I got maybe 40k out of the uniballs on my 4runner and they had a shit load of slop, swapped them out last year and within a handful of weeks they were squeaking again. That's after washing the joint out and regularly using tri flow on it, plus it cost twice as much to replace the uniballs as to swap out the ball joints. I didn't know the delta joint can be swapped in for uniballs, I'll have to look at that. A friend of mine just got some delta joint arms a few weeks ago so will have to check them out at koh. To each their own though, squeaks on a street vehicle just drive me nuts :D
     
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    I went through this process last year myself. Went ADS and love them, and drive them hard last summer. But go with ADS, Kings, or Fox and you won’t regret it IMO. Find a good deal on one and roll with it I say.
     
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    Race truck parts make race truck noises.

    And from what I see now, Icon hasn't released a Camburg replacement (so i was wrong as of now lol). They offer the DJ as 1" uniball replacements current, not yet in the larger ball sizes.
     
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    That's only justified if you're doing race truck things :D
     
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    Hahaha

    Ehhh lol
     
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    Pretty sure 99% of what we see done to trucks on this forum isn't really 'justified' lol.

    People have been offroading for decades pretty sure the shocks they had in the 40's and 50s and 60s et al were absolute dog poop compared to factory shocks now
     
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    LOL, probably true, but it's fun to buy crap.
     
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    I was all set to buy kings or fox etc but after seeing them rust like crazy on several trucks I've been eyeing the ironman or dobinsons kit myself. Cheaper too and probably more in line to what I am going to use the truck for (similar to OP)
     
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