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2022 Toyota Tundra Technical Review

Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by Summitroad, Jan 12, 2022.

  1. Jan 12, 2022 at 10:30 AM
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    The best I've seen so far. Throw the rest of the 'walkaround' videos where they talk more about the f2cking badging, colours and infotainment in the garbage heap!
     
  3. Jan 12, 2022 at 10:42 AM
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    I hope he gets to diagnose those turbo wastegate problems and make another video
     
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    Too many, but not enough....
    Love this guys videos, he always has a ton of good information.
     
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    Great video. I am almost sold. But LOL... one thing he mentioned makes me mad. No transmission dipstick... or more specifically, no way to easily add fluid if you get a leak like I did in my Tacoma when one of the hard cooling lines developed a rust pinhole. Luckily I was able to baby it and limp it home where I was able to replace the lines and change out the fluid. But if you are far away from home on a road trip and develop a small leak not having a fill point is gonna stop you cold and send you looking for a shop and owning a major repair bill. Either that or you will need your fluid pump, a wrench and be ready to crawl under to top it up.
     
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    Well the transmission dipstick isn't a new issue, it's been that way on the Tundras since 2007+. Also, you have to ensure the temp is at a specific temperature to get the correct level check.

    I'm a little skeptical of the transmission cooler integrated into the radiator. Is it really that much different from the hockey puck setup of the '19+ models?
     
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    Yeah, I know all about that. Checking the level isn't the real issue. I agree there is no real need to do that very often and the procedure isn't that hard. The issue is when you get a leak like my rust pinhole and the trans starts slipping and banging you can't pull over and pour some in... so you can only go so far before you'll need to find a shop or get a tow. It took 11 years to happen on mine but happen it did.


     
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  8. Jan 12, 2022 at 1:58 PM
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    Good video.
    Some notes.
    He uses the words "interesting" and "different" whenever discussing changes he was not so sure about or dare I say "not" happy with.
    Like he was disappointed with the rear end. Not as massive anymore - its "SUV" like. 4Runner referenced.
    He said hopefully it will be as reliable as previous.

    Massive electric steering motor to work with Toyota Safety Sense.
    Plastic valve covers - really ? 8^0 too new to determine if they are durable. Im sure Toyota tested them as ok.

    Shift actuator for 4wd on the outside now - easy to service. I guess alot of people did not use the 4wd monthly and it locked up over time.
    Entire transfer case needed to be taken apart to fix.

    Sport model does not have alot of protection underneath - he noted that. re: transmission oil pan.

    What a crazy shape of the fuel tank and he noted the filler is a long stretch to other side. Interesting he said.

    He made a number of references to the fact the engine although like what is in the Lexus - has mechanical pieces instead of electronic like in the Lexus.
    So it is a new design.

    Overall he liked the new version.

    Very informative. thx for posting link.
     
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    Not a pump, a motor that is geared to the steering shaft or rack and electronically controlled. Electric assisted steering like this has been around for a long time and been used for lane keeping assist for at least 5 years in other models such as Camry.

     
  10. Jan 12, 2022 at 2:09 PM
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    ^^
    corrected thx
     
  11. Jan 12, 2022 at 2:17 PM
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    Pretty sure that’s Adam Sandler.
     
  12. Jan 12, 2022 at 2:31 PM
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    You are welcome
     
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    Watching the video now. The cost of maintaining this truck will be double!!! For engine air filters. 2 separate intake systems, 1 for each turbo.
     
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    Very informative video, thank you for posting.
     
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    That’s exactly what I got out of it when he kept saying interesting and different. One thing I don’t care for (kinda)and he said it was better design is the rear brake set-up. My wife’s Lexus has that design and once you pull on the brake switch, you better hold on. It slams the brakes on. I have used the lever action, foot action and the new switch action. To me I feel like I prefer the amount of braking force needed. Granted if you activating the e-brake is not for a good reason but I would still like to have actual control of brake force. I also not to keen on all the electronic controlled stuff going on with the engine. And let’s see how many threads are started about the tranny cooler or lack there of, lol. I still have along time to go with my 2020 so plenty of time to see all the kinks worked out.
     
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    Yes, but air filters are cheap. I am more worried about all the electronic controlled systems. Waste gate, 2 MAF sensors, blow-off valve, e-pump in the tranny, e-controlled mechanical fan(should have gone e-fans), etc.
     
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    Really good review. Glad to hear no more exhaust manifold that could leak in time. That's a PIA to replace under normal circumstances.

    Not sure if having 12 injectors (6 for port, 6 for direct) was a great decision. Good that the starter is on the underside of the engine, so easy to replace if needed.

    With all the motors underneath, I'd definitely want some sort of skid plate splash guard to protect. Also, good to see they went back to old school circular oil filters.

    I didn't hear any discussion of whether the fuel pump is in the gas tank because that beast looks like a nightmare to drop and service. :rofl:
     
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    One in the gas tank and one in the engine bay.
     
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    I used to do that with a past girlfriend. Worked pretty well I might say.
     
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    Having a mechanical fan isn't necessarily a bad thing. An e-fan could potentially fail in time whereas a mechanical one would always work and prevent the engine from overheating.
     
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    Mechanical fans also move a lot more air than electric fans. Electric fans have small low hp electric motors powering them. Mechanical fan has a 380+hp TTV6 powering it.
     
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    Actually this is a great system. One of direct injection's weaknesses is that the fuel that has the detergents doesn't flow over the valves and they can get really gunked up and require some invasive and $$ cleaning. Go find some videos of BWMs and such which seem to have some of the worst issues. Having extra port injectors upstream of the valves solves that issue nicely. And these dual systems have tons of potential for boosting power for those so inclined if and when the tuning gets cracked. The Corvette guys with blowers actually buy aftermarket systems that add port injection to the existing DI setup for this very reason. Then you can play with injector size and tuning to get as much power as you want and are comfortable with risking. I would never do that on a Tundra but there will some that will. You know who you are!

     
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    My last experience with a DI only engine was really cruddy valves at 105k when I had to pull the intake to replace spark plugs. I mean they looked horrible and crusty with carbon buildup. Can’t imagine they will seal up very well over time. Can’t clean them on the vehicle. Have to pull the heads and media blast them. GM 3.6L lambda platform SUV
     
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    I know that but e-fans can also move a lot of air. Also since everyone seems to be worried about mpg, well that’s another way to gain some. As far as I know Ford and GM use e-fans. Don’t know about dodge.
     
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    Not nearly as much as most people on this site but some.
    Stumbled across this vid last night. Not bad at all!
     
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    I would have preferred an e-fan and they make them plenty powerful enough. But I really don't understand how the new Tundra fan works yet to electronically control a mechanical fan. I am going to try to find some details and it should be interesting... and maybe this design choice will make more sense when I see it.

     
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    Guess you have been lucky to never have a mech fan fail on you. And now with it being e-controlled what’s the difference? You took the mechanical control away and basically put in a e-fan. If the fan clutch doesn’t engage then there is hardly no air flow
     
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    I believe Ford F-250 was one of the first to use this. There might be other but I could be wrong. Before the fan clutch was engaged by the heat coming from the radiator and would vary the fan speed according to the temp from the radiator. Now it works in a similar way but it’s e-controlled by the ECM.
     
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    That actually sounds pretty good to me. The clutch should be pretty simple and very reliable... and controlling it with the ECM will be way more accurate and efficient than the old basic mech fans... especially to disengage the clutch when the vehicle is moving greater then xx mph to remove any fan drag from the engine. Maybe next gen they will add something like variable pitched fan blades. ;-)

     
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