2019 F-150 to 3rd Gen Tundra

Hi all,

I’ve always owned Toyotas (Four 4Runners and Three Tacomas)

3 years ago I was driving a Tacoma and needed more back seat room for a growing family. I looked at the 2nd gen tundra but didn’t want the poor gas mileage. I ended up buying a 2019 F-150 with the 2.7 Ecoboost. Truck has been fine and I’ve not had any issues with it but I will not keep it long term due to aging reliability with the engine and transmission. I don’t want to pay out of pocket for a major repair like that which apparently is more common than I thought.

My main complaint with Fords/GM is how inconvenient DIY maintenance is. I do everything I can DIY (All fluids, spark plugs, drive belts, brakes, etc…) it just seems domestic trucks are designed to be serviced in the dealership… for example there is no drain plug on the differentials. You have to remove the entire rear cover clean it and then reseal it to do a diff fluid change. Also on transmission there is no drain and check plug… you have to remove the pan and to do that you have to take apart the exhaust… it’s just overly complex and apparently not very durable.

which is why I am going to trade back into a Toyota. At this point I don’t think I will ever buy another vehicle that is not a Toyota/Lexus.

My mistake. Fool me once shame in you. Fool me twice shame on me.

I’ll be looking for a used 3rd gen crewmax with short bed. My only must haves are heated seats and steering wheel cause they are nice… I guess I need to get an SR5 premium at a minimum to get those. My preference would be a Limited TRD off road to also get the locking rear diff…

Moral of the story. Learn from my experience and stick with Toyota. They are much better quality and more owner friendly than pretty much anything else.

 

I did almost the exact thing a few years back. 6 months ago I bought my Tundra and cannot believe the difference between the two! The ford was creaky, groaning and full of rattles. Spent a lot of time and money working on it as well. The build quality is leaps and bounds better on the Tundra!
Now I know there are issues with the new Tundras and people say the reliability is less than it used to be but that’s an issue across all the platforms, in my opinion. I’m much happier with my Tundra than I was with the ford! Drive what you like!
Daisy

 

I recently got my wife a Grand Highlander (moved from limited 4Runner in need of a functional 3rd row) and am blown away with how nice the build quality is. Convinced me to just stick with Toyota since I typically hold my vehicles long term. We plan to keep the GH 10+ years to get out of “kid years”….

 

Any recommendations on whether or not to hold out for a year or so and avoid buying a 1st year truck (2022) used? For those with 2022's what is your overall impression with the truck? Besides the potential for an issue with the engine are there any major issues which would prevent you from buying your 2022 again? I see lots of people posting that they moved from a 2022 to a 2024 and say its better...

 

I just saw a 2022 limited with 65k miles and a good maintenance record. It has the recall notice on the VIN for the full engine replacement. Looks clean... just high miles for a 3 year old truck...

Funny thing is I found out it was traded in by someone who traded in for an F-150... and here I am looking to trade out from an F-150 into a Tundra... I wonder why the previous owner traded out from it... maybe got scared by the engine recall.

 

Seems alot of people are jumping ship because of recall. They ain't seen nothing yet. I came from Ford, 12 recalls on my F250 & they keep coming. Toyota is doing right by replacing the entire engine!!! No other manufacturer would do that. Alot of 22's & 23's will be available with brand new engines. It'll be like a new truck almost.

 

I am in a tough situation because my Ford has a 10R80 transmission that is fine right now but has a known defect that can leave you stranded on the side of the road. Also costs $8-12k out of pocket to fix... The Tundras have the engine issue which could potentially leave you stranded on the side of the road however at least Toyota is doing the recall to replace that defect/issue at their cost. I'll definitely lose money trading out of the Ford into the Toyota however I think id rather lose money on the trade rather than possibly lose money fixing the Ford only to trade it in...

Its a shame because i take great care of my vehicles. The Ford is in excellent condition with every fluid and wear component up to date on maintenance... should i gamble and run the Ford for another 2 years and then jump into a Tundra? Theoretically it should need nothing but oil changes over the next 2 years...

 

Seems you're in a good spot, I'd hold for the refresh Tundra with tow hooks included

 

I was in the same boat

If you are going with a new Tundra, go for it! No recalls. I traded an excellent condition 2019 F250 for a new 24 Limited Tundra. Even trade. My Ford looked and even still smelled new with only 30k miles. It had alot of diesel issues though.

 

Well I'm gonna get flamed, but here goes. I've had my Tundra for 14 months. All I heard from my buddy was how superior Toyota is everything else. I've owned several F150s over the years, and maybe I'm the luckiest bastard alive, but I had very few issues with any of them. I had a 2014, 2017, 2019, and 2020. I decided to give the Tundra a shot since it looks great and they had orange. Sorry to say, Toyota isn't any better than Ford anymore folks. The Tundra has issues, period. Everybody knows it. They just aren't built like they used to be. And for all the folks I keep seeing posting that Toyota is doing right by replacing all the engines, that's also bogus. Why aren't the hybrid folks getting new engines? Did the same engines miraculously get the debris out since it was earmarked for a hybrid. There are a subset of folks with hybrids that are getting screwed. Hopefully the class action lawsuit takes care of that, since I have a hybrid.

That said, the wife told me 3 months ago that she wanted a truck again. I asked her what truck she wanted. She said, yours. Figures, what's mine is hers and what's hers is hers. So I went out 2 months ago and got myself another F150. 2024 Lariat Powerboost. I can honestly say, my F150 feels light years better built than my Tundra. It's way nicer inside, has more features, and I've been getting 4 MPG better than my stock Tundra did when it was stock. I do miss the roll down rear window terribly though. I'm happy with my F150, my wife is happy with the Tundra, it's a win-win. We'll see which one holds up better in the long-term. I bet my seat panel isn't gonna break in half in the first 5K miles or need front brakes to avoid waking the dead when backing out of the driveway by 7K miles. Am I gonna have problems with the F150 eventually, probably. But tell me a brand that's not having problems these days. Then again, maybe I'll remain the luckiest bastard alive. Who knows?

To sum up, I don't hate the Tundra. It's a beautiful truck and has some great features, I just don't feel it was made to do work, you know truck stuff. Kinda of like a heavy duty Tacoma. It'll off road well, but anything of substance in the bed and the bed will possibly crack and rear springs will hit the bump stops. The F150 just feels like it's a tool meant to do its purpose, which is being a truck. I like them both, just for different reasons. But I'm not disillusioned into thinking Toyota will stand behind their product anymore than Ford, because they've already shown they won't by leaving the hybrid folks in the cold on the engine debacle.