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2006 Tundra Lucchese #42 (I've got issues)

Discussion in '1st Gen Tundras (2000-2006)' started by Lexmunk, Jun 2, 2024.

  1. Jun 9, 2024 at 3:04 PM
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    whodatschrome

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    I’ve painted at 1-2am multiple times. It just all depends upon the timing for me. Luckily i don’t have neighbors who live close enough for me to irritate.
     
  2. Jun 9, 2024 at 3:12 PM
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    Lights will be important to see the paint well as it lays down. So you can't do it inside? Usually that can work with a fan and enough airflow. Beware bugs will be attracted to the lights and hence your wet paint at night. Glad to hear you are practicing your gun / pressure, distance and speed before painting the panel.
     
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  3. Jun 9, 2024 at 3:15 PM
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    I have a 5 acre property out in the county and my neighbor still calls the sheriffs for "noise complaints" when the deputy has on multiple occasions says he can't hear my equipment from their home. She already called them over the noise of my tiny orbital sander when I was working with it at 8pm. I really feel like they need to cite her for abuse of 911.
     
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  4. Jun 10, 2024 at 4:15 PM
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    Primer is on, it already looks WAY better, hardly any orange peel, had a nice calm day to paint, got 3 coats on. I'm going to sand it with a 1000 grain, it's already very smooth with a nice even coat on it. WOO HOO!!
     
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  5. Jun 10, 2024 at 7:58 PM
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    Theres a bit of orange peel in the clear coat, annoying, but I can sand it and reapply, I've got a gallon of the stuff so I'll apply liberally. I'm overall happy with the result!

     
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  6. Jun 10, 2024 at 8:34 PM
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    Fantastic
    Looks fantastic
     
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  7. Jun 10, 2024 at 10:32 PM
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  8. Jun 10, 2024 at 10:36 PM
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    It has two coats right now, I noticed a bit of dirt and I had a moth land directly into the clear so it made a huge smudge trying to free itself. I wanted 3 coats, but didn't want to layer on top of that smudge + dirt that it brought with it. Not sure how to proceed from there.
     
  9. Jun 11, 2024 at 1:27 AM
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    Sorry that happened. Is the moth out though and not dried into the paint, so just the pattern is left in the clear? Can you sand with 1000 then 1500 to level orange peel and remove the dirt / smudge without cutting through to the base then polish... or throw another coat on? It sounds like it's pretty hot there so maybe affecting the "flow" of the paint once laid on the panel? Maybe the gun fan is a little wide, or pressure could use a little adjustment, or the distance could be closer when spraying. But smaller fan and/or closer distance loads more paint. So have found the trick is to find the right corresponding speed that it goes on wet and doesn't look peely or dry, but doesn't load so much as to form drips or sags.

    Maybe you've already watched a bunch of these type of videos...

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qZWIFzFcvPE

    Maybe @whodatschrome has some thoughts too.
     
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  10. Jun 11, 2024 at 4:45 AM
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    This is the answer. Knowing this is the hood and it’s going to see the brunt of road debris, rocks, etc, if want to have 3-4 coats of clear anyway, so smoothing down the peel and laying another coat on before cutting and polishing is how I’d approach.

    Although I’d want to understand what caused the orange peel in the first place, I’d have that little niggling concern in the back of my head about clear coat failure down the road if this was a case of contamination from lack of prep. Panel prep is monumental in getting a good paint job.
     
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  11. Jun 11, 2024 at 5:26 AM
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    Everything what ToyotaDude said, but i'd attack the orange peel with a more aggressive grit sandpaper.

    Read the data sheet for the clear coat and see how soon you can sand it. My wild guess is wait a minimum of 24 hours to wet sand. If the current two coats of clear are fairly thick, then i would wet sand with about a 500-600 grit. But as a warning, it will cut REALLY fast. Make 1000% sure you don't cut into the black base coat! The most common place that will happen is at the body lines and the curves. Use both a 6" rubber hard block and a softer sponge block to sand. Squirt in a little bit of soap into your bucket of water (that you're dipping your sanding block into). The soft sponge block can also double at a squeegee to wipe the water away in order to see what the areas you just sanded look like. Once you got the clear coat flatten out, then spray another 2 coats of clear.
     
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  12. Jun 17, 2024 at 6:52 PM
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    I've got the hood back on with the faulty clear coat, can't tackle it due to work and some other stuff, but I have another question:

    I took the truck out for a drive on Father's day to hit some memorable spots my dad liked, I noticed after driving it for about 45 mins that the engine's tone had changed and it was sounding like a turbine with a higher pitch than normal, I could no longer hear the usual rumbling when accelerating, I parked it and checked the idle and it was normal, RPM was table, checked for leaks, checked the belts, (the timing belt was changed 12k miles ago) and popped open the airfilter, as soon as I popped the filter it went back to it's normal tone. It has an OEM filter in it, but it seemed like it was gasping for air. I pulled out the intake to see if something got loose, and nothing, filter is newish. I put new filter in it and it still doing the same thing. Is there a sensor bugging? No codes showed up, no engine light, could it be the fuel pump dying?
     
  13. Jun 17, 2024 at 7:37 PM
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    Can you record the sound?
     
  14. Jun 17, 2024 at 9:13 PM
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    So while in park the truck is revving by itself from 1000 to 3000 rpm without pressing the accelerator pedal?
     
  16. Jun 18, 2024 at 2:37 AM
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    Sorry, actually it's me revving it, but the sound is totally different than usual. After driving for a while it starts to sound like the turbine with that higher tone, and persists while parked and the rev sounds entirely different than when I first start it. There is no loss of power than I can tell though.
     
  17. Jul 13, 2024 at 7:33 PM
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    I got burned by Firestone last time, so I went to local toyota dealership and this is the quote they gave me for a timing belt fix (my timing belt is fine, just trying to plan ahead). Is this a fair price? Or should I go DIY and just order the replacement kit and replace a bunch of other stuff while I'm at it? I'd like to swap the radiator, sbelt, hoses, etc..

     
  18. Jul 13, 2024 at 7:37 PM
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    I personally think that's high. I'd find a Toyota specialty shop. I'd be hard pressed to pay more than $1,600 for timing belt, water pump, pulleys, tensioner.
     
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    I had a feeling it was pretty high, I'll try to shop around a little more, really trying to not get bent over anymore lol.
     
  20. Jul 14, 2024 at 1:22 PM
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    That's high. Maybe not high for a dealership, but high. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, many dealership mechanics don't seem to be very good...This has been addressed on this site in other places. Many people, when selling a vehicle, will advertise how 'all work done at the dealership!' But unfortunately, that's often not a good thing.

    Like `shifty said, finding a Toyota specialty shop is your best bet. I know in MT, Bozeman and Missoula both have "Toyotas Only"-style auto shops. I happened to find a very high quality, high integrity, zero BS mechanic in a closer town to me. He's not a Toyota specialist, just a great all around mechanic. Anything I'm not comfortable doing, I take to him. He's the owner and the only mechanic, so I know it's him doing the work. Too many times I've taken a vehicle to well-reviewed shops, but happened to get a rookie or low quality mechanic they hired. I like knowing exactly who's working on my truck.

    He just did my timing belt, water pump, serpentine belt and an unexpected fan pulley, and I paid just under $1,300.
     
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