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Looking at HD trucks, any advice?

Discussion in 'Towing & Hauling' started by sno1, Apr 26, 2024.

  1. Aug 25, 2025 at 12:46 PM
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    "I wouldn't even consider a Ram between 2019-2024 in the HO model engine."

    Is there a reason you didn't include 2025? I'm dangerously close to buying a new 2025 3500 Big Horn Cummins CC 4x4. I convinced myself that it's better to have too much truck for the trailer we decide on (and potential trailer after that) than not enough. I brought a HD CC home and it just fits in the garage. With the package 24Z which gives me the 5th wheel prep and a bunch of other goodies it would be ~70k (MSRP 79k). So about $10k more that a 2018 with 50k miles. Sometimes a guy has to roll the dice, lol.
     
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  2. Aug 25, 2025 at 3:43 PM
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    I mean, if the garage is your main focus....:rofl:I'm just messing with you.

    Why I left out the 2025? I never buy the first year of anything. Some other fools can be the sex doll.

    -New motor, new injection pump, same hydraulic lifters that have been an issue....
    -The dealer's around here can suck my balls. They really do suck. That is the main reason, and the diesel techs are not trained very well. My last experience with (then dodge) blew my mind. I am certain my knowledge level was greater than the lead diesel tech. In fact, I know it was...he wadded up my motor with 42k miles and I had to learn real quick how to pull a head, do injectors, injection pumps, yadda yadda yadda.

    The positive things:

    -The new motor is a move in the right direction. Non-CGI blocks, Aluminum head, the ZF transmission is leap years ahead of others.
    -Rams interior are damn nice as well. In fact, probably one of the nicest in the top trim packages.

    Even the ones I don't recommend have been good trucks...it is how you use them. The heavy use guys (think hot shots) have been blowing up motors, so not good. However, look at Ali that posted up in his dually Ram. Been a great truck for him. He doesn't tow overly heavy for a dually Ram, great on maintenance, got the recall done to go back to a CP3 (make better power anyway), and doesn't use the truck to go get groceries. I do think he has an angel on his shoulder though (literally...he has quite the story when he was a sheriff deputy that made national news).

    Right now used vehicle prices are out of control....still. So I'm going to toss this out to you...

    https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for...00|Big Horn&trimCode=RM3500|Laramie&zip=80908

    https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for...00|Big Horn&trimCode=RM3500|Laramie&zip=80908

    Since you are going 5th wheel, nothing like a dually for towing and the stability/safety they offer. Even more if you get the cab and chassis, I think you can get the lower gear ratio and the ridiculously big factory fuel tank. 52 gallon rear mounted tank with the option to order a 22 gallon midship tank as well.

    Then put your kick ass skirted flatbed on. You would have the baddest ass truck in town for less money.

    https://cmtruckbeds.com/


    I would still shop around. 70K for a big horn truck sounds spendy.

    https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for...00|Big Horn&trimCode=RM3500|Laramie&zip=80908
     
  3. Aug 25, 2025 at 4:58 PM
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    Wanna know how bad the Ram dealers are here? Recently this summer I took my oldest to her last instruction driving course and had two hours to blow. Well well well, let's check out the new Rams.

    I was in the showroom, on the lot, walked all around. I was not greeted or acknowledged during that time. Had to park next to the Red Eye...

    IMG_7869.jpg

    This was the only 3500 on the lot, and it was in Laramie trim for 99k dollars.

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    This was a 2500 for 87k dollars and it was nothing special. Cloth seats, no power passenger seat.

    IMG_8981.jpg

    No way in hell would I purchase in this city or state.
     
  4. Aug 25, 2025 at 7:32 PM
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    Those are crazy prices. Is that due to them being diesel's? Or is that just the pricing there?

    When looking for mine I found True Car to be an awesome website to search. Great cars at good prices.
     
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  5. Aug 25, 2025 at 9:59 PM
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    We have a lot of military bases around here. I have heard three times from sales managers since I have been married (almost 24 years) "we don't have to offer deals. Some military guy will pay full price as long as we get them the payment they want."

    As a veteran I just smiled and said "good to know...Denver I go."

    The Mustang, low boy gooseneck, dump trailer, and most likely my next truck will be purchased elsewhere.
     
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  6. Aug 25, 2025 at 10:10 PM
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    One more thought, diesels are expensive and when out of warranty they get really expensive.

    This is what I was doing today:

    Transmission cooler housing crack.
    30 minutes to remove the grille and front bumper. Parts came in late so I'll finish up tomorrow. Dealership wanted 1650.00 to do this and I would have received the truck back mid-September.

    IMG_8963.jpg IMG_8964.jpg IMG_8967.jpg IMG_8971.jpg IMG_8973.jpg

    Then my daughter came out and changed her headlights out on her Corolla. She's getting pretty good at the whole maintenance thing.
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    New vs old

    IMG_8980.jpg

    Little shit did it by herself.
     
  7. Aug 26, 2025 at 4:42 AM
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    I knew vehicle prices varied by state, but to just be that brazen abou it...sheesh.

    The price was one reason I did not go diesel, and while the extra power is awesome, the extra cost puts it out of my necessity range.

    She did a good job. They look nice.
     
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  8. Aug 26, 2025 at 5:24 AM
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    I kinda like having a supercharged vehicle. That might be the way I go next go around.
    IMG_8979.png
     
  9. Aug 26, 2025 at 5:28 AM
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    Those are nice. But with a SC, you have to use premium gas? At least with a gas engine. Not sure how that works with the diesel.
     
  10. Aug 26, 2025 at 6:03 AM
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    That’s not a bad price! Would be pretty sweet matching that up to a high performance transmission and let it rip!
     
  11. Aug 26, 2025 at 6:10 AM
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    I would mate that to a 2024 or newer 10 speed. No need for transmission upgrades since it's the same one as the diesels.

    The years that SC is for...a built transmission is probably a good idea. :cool:

    There are centrifugal SC kits that are even cheaper.
     
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  12. Aug 26, 2025 at 7:35 AM
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    A few upgrades to the 10L1000 will be needed haha
     
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  13. Aug 26, 2025 at 8:17 AM
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    You can use 87 on the 6.6l gas, but performs best with premium.

    Here, premium and diesel cost the same.
     
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  14. Aug 26, 2025 at 8:26 AM
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    If it is the same price, might as well get the better performance. Here, it is almost a dollar difference.
     
  15. Aug 29, 2025 at 8:04 PM
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    Picked up my 2025 RAM 3500 Cummins and signed a contract on a 2025 Brinkley 3100Z today. Photo of truck in my garage for @ColoradoTJ

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  16. Aug 29, 2025 at 9:57 PM
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    See you got the fastest color. Congratulations on your purchase and I hope it gives you many years of service.

    If you want to be added to the HD message board/PM...let me know.
     
  17. Aug 30, 2025 at 7:01 AM
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    Sweet! Glad you got it. Hope you enjoy it for many years!
     
  18. Sep 1, 2025 at 1:15 PM
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    What is this HD message board? Is there a hidden forum Ive never heard of? Is it better than GM forums which are worthless compared to this site?
     
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  19. Sep 1, 2025 at 2:00 PM
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    It is a private message I started a while back for the members on here that had to move on from their Toyota Tundra's due to towing and what not.

    Yes, it has better information that the GM forums. That is why I started it.

    If you have a HD truck, pm me that you want to join and I will add you.
     
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  20. Sep 1, 2025 at 5:07 PM
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    Pure fun. Group message and yes. Significantly better
     
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  21. Sep 2, 2025 at 5:42 AM
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    I've learned a lot from that thread. Used to belong to a forum for HD trucks, and as was said by @Lake.Life24 , it is truly much better.
     
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  22. Sep 3, 2025 at 10:46 AM
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    We are picking up our new 5th wheel next week and I'll need to tow my old 28ft 6,500 lb trailer 125 miles down the turnpike to trade it in. I really want to just buy a 2.5 to 2.0 inch reducer, hook it up to my new RAM 1.0 ton and go. Adjusting the weight distribution hitch for the new truck would be a huge PIA. What say you good folks? I routinely towed the camper with my Tundra 12 miles across town to the dealer on the highway at 65mph without any issue. The turnpike has an 80mph speed limit in portions but I can safely limit my speed to 65-70ish I think. TIA.
     
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  23. Sep 3, 2025 at 10:59 AM
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    2mchfun Cool story, but did your new TTV6 tow a shuttle?

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    Consider the value of the trade in and ALL the possible situations that could arise...IME, it's worth it to stick it on there JIC.:thumbsup:
     
  24. Sep 3, 2025 at 11:04 AM
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    I hear you. Unfortunately, I can't just stick it on there. It will require taking the WDH apart and adjusting for the hitch height of my new truck and torquing everything back down to specs. Probably a couple of hours.
     
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  25. Sep 3, 2025 at 11:59 AM
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    you don't need a WDH to pull a 6500# trailer with your new 1 ton. Just a 2 5/16" ball.
     
  26. Sep 3, 2025 at 12:04 PM
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    That's what I was hoping. I can use my WDH with a 2.5" to 2" reducer ($12.99 at Harbor Freight) without the torsion bars and maybe just drop it down a hole or two to keep the camper close to level.
     

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