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Trailer maintenance

Discussion in 'Towing & Hauling' started by ColoradoTJ, May 7, 2020.

  1. May 4, 2025 at 10:08 AM
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    I made a little to-go kit for my tiny HF folding trailer. Pretty sure it has everything to completely disassemble/reassemble the trailer on the side of the road along with registration paperwork taped inside. When lending the trailer out, I hand over this kit along with a spare tire and they should be good to go
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  2. May 4, 2025 at 11:46 AM
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    I found this to be the case when I re decked my deckover trailer. I used green treated lumber and butted them tight expecting they would shrink - and shrink they did. 1/8 or more gap now. If the lumber were seasoned it obviously would shrink as much, but mine came straight from the lumber yard.
     
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  3. May 4, 2025 at 12:01 PM
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    None at this point.
    Yeah...you can really tell how green/wet the treated boards are since they're twice as heavy.
    I'd have the yard deliver my boards and they came pretty much all the same and were on a single pallet so they were pretty consistent.
    It Sucked Hauling them from the driveway to the backyard when they're that heavy!!
     
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  4. May 4, 2025 at 2:34 PM
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    You ain't kidding. I had to buy 4 2x8x16 boards and one 2x10x16 and it sucked getting them out to and into the truck by myself. Luckily my son was home to help me carry them to the back of the driveway where the trailer was.
     
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  5. May 4, 2025 at 3:36 PM
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    Hmm, good thoughts.

    Well I've wondered if there's a way to do away with all of it, short of just putting a normal trailer axle under there. But I don't understand enough of the inner workings to know what I can & can't mess with. I'll just plan on counting how many turns it takes to get the nut off, and try to maintain the preload.

    Thanks!
     
  6. May 4, 2025 at 3:57 PM
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    Nothing yet except for some LED interior & exterior bulbs.
    IMO you need the ring gear to sling the oil so it gets in the tubes and to the bearings.
     
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  7. May 5, 2025 at 7:00 AM
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    The bearings are sealed, though. I thought I read when I first researching this that with such an old truck, they weren't sealed bearings and the differential fluid lubed them, but when I pulled the axle shafts, they had sealed bearings on them, and I replaced them with sealed bearings. I'm not convinced I need oil out there at the ends of the axle tubes.

    Either way, I want enough oil in the diff to keep the gears cool and slippery, and that means fixing the pinion seal leak. I got the old one out last night and will get a new one ordered, and I counted how many turns to get the nut off. Sounds like that many, plus maybe another half turn, will be the ballpark right preload. I think this diff is tough...It had been run for who knows how long with low, old, crusty oil. There was all kinds of debris in there. Not metal chunks, almost like dried, crusty bits of worn out oil, if that's even possible. I cleaned things out as well as I could. Now it's got new axle bearings, oil, and soon a seal to hold that oil it...hopefully it's good for a while. Don't really like spending all this time and money on a beat to crap 1969-ish trailer that just came along as part of the purchase of my slide-in camper. It's nice to have the trailer, but I wasn't looking for a trailer...and now it's being a pain!

    So far it's still worth it to me to have the trailer, but any more maintenance and I may just unload it.
     
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  8. May 5, 2025 at 7:24 AM
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    Cool. Good luck. Didn't realize those were sealed bearings.
     
  9. May 5, 2025 at 9:49 AM
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    https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls

    Here is a very useful website if you don’t already know about it. I recently found this website very helpful while getting some recall repairs done on our travel trailer. Originally I was only aware of one recall that pertained to our TT which was for a connection point and o-ring on the manifold for the Dometic stove. I was asked by the repair shop for the recall number and didn’t have it on hand so I had to do a little research since the paper copy of this notice was lost in the chaos of moving out of state. I discovered this site on a Jayco forum and when I typed in my VIN there was actually two more recalls that I wasn’t aware of, one being the propane regulator and another for the rear roof access ladder that on some models actually blocked the emergency exit window from opening more than a few inches. Luckily ours was not affected by this one but both LP related recalls could be very dangerous if we weren’t aware of them. We only ever got one notice from Jayco about the Dometic stove recall. It affected over 20,000 serial numbers on various models both older and newer than our TT. Why this wasn’t fixed before it was sold if they were aware of the recall is beyond me but I didn’t receive the notice until about a year after it was purchased. I will be using this website to search the VIN on any vehicle or trailer prior to purchase in the future. Hope this helps!
    https://www.nhtsa.gov/recalls
     
  10. May 8, 2025 at 5:37 PM
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    Well, new pinion seal is in. I haven't driven anywhere, but it hasn't leaked in 24 hours. Before, it was definitely leaking just sitting there. We'll see what happens next time I get it on the road. I hope...that now it'll be maintenance-free for a few years. I just replaced the wiring and turn signals this spring, and differential oil. While it annoyed the heck out of me to have to pull the axle shafts and differential gears just to replace the oil, it turns out it was a good thing. The bearings definitely needed to be replaced, and now a new pinion seal too. As long as my axle seals don't start leaking the first time I get it out on the road...I think I'm good.
     
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  11. Jun 30, 2025 at 1:08 PM
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    We just got back from a 1400 mile trip with a rented 28' enclosed trailer. The owner stated he just rebuilt the suspension so it should be good to go. Kind of weird on a 2.5 year old trailer...

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    Since I have trust issues, I got under the trailer to look around. I was not impressed. The wiring was all over the place (this is an issue later) and I found one of the spreader nuts finger tight. The trailer was at 10K lbs. This would have been catastrophic had the bolt backed out and we all know it would have.

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    Early on in the trip at 4AM, we lost trailer brakes. Only one was working. We decided to go since the Duramax/Allison combo has really good grade/tow braking in conjunction with the exhaust brake.

    The rental came with two spare tires. One crappy one and a Goodyear Marathon. Three of the tires on the trailer are GY Marathons and one off brand. Well, the off brand blew out at 73 mph. We heard it go and then started slowing down aggressively. The tire started coming apart at 35-37 mph. No damage to the trailer or wheel. For some reason, not a lot of people like to move over for a disabled vehicle. Changing a tire on the drivers side with semi's flying by at 75 mph is amazing. Glad Colorado has a law about moving over and they enforce it.

    When we got to our destination I did figure out what was wrong but sure wasn't going to tackle that job.

    This particular trailer towed poorly. I did use the supplied LDH (wrong weight rating) and it helped a bit with the sway. We did have a lot of wind bucking us and my truck was leveled for the first time (and after this trip going back down to 1" front lift). We ended up getting 8-9 mpg at 73-75 mph. Normally with my gooseneck trailers and a lot more weight I average 11-12.

    This will be the last "rental" trailer for us. This is the second one that was a complete nightmare.
     
  12. Jun 30, 2025 at 1:13 PM
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    I always enjoy your trailer stories. They remind me of my childhood... :rofl:

    I think something is missing there. Can't quite put my finger on it. I'm sure it woulda been fine.. :censored:
     
  13. Jun 30, 2025 at 1:23 PM
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    Funny I normally don't have issues with my trailers. Tire's are usually the problem (10 ply). I now run nothing but 14-16 ply tires and haven't had an issue since.

    Did you ever read my Home Depot dump trailer rental experience? That was really bad.
     
  14. Jun 30, 2025 at 1:29 PM
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    Hey guys, I’m looking for a car trailer to tow my jeep. It’s a 4 door and weighs about 6 thousand pounds. I would like to get an aluminum trailer to save weight. Do you trust aluminum? Also, for that weight, would 2 3500 lb axles work? Thanks
     
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  15. Jun 30, 2025 at 1:31 PM
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    Haha. I don't remember the HD dump trailer, just the time you went to go pick up a buddy and his stranded jeep and seemed to blow a tire every 70 miles.
     
  16. Jun 30, 2025 at 2:58 PM
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    That was a crap show. That was my brothers trailer. New tires that sat for 3.5 years. Dry rotted from inside out.

    The HD dump trailer had a similar issue. Tires were 6 years old and dry rotted, crappy no air pressure spare, no tools, and a number to call if something happened.

    I rolled that bitch back in on three tires after the second blowout. They gave me my 300.00 back.
     
  17. Jun 30, 2025 at 3:03 PM
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    6000+trailer weight (1500 for aluminum)=7500 lbs.

    I personally do not buy trailers with axles under 7k rating.
     
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    Like @ColoradoTJ said, you would be over the axle rating of a standard 7k (dual 3.5k axle) trailer. I’d look for dual 5k axles or even dua 7k axles; the trailer will be rated for 10k or 9999 lbs depending on your state (the difference being for registration/tax/license recs), or 14k if you go for dual 7k.

    I have a 7k car hauler and a 10k deckover. Tires, brakes, axles, etc, aren’t much more expensive for the 10k trailer, but once you step up to a 14k the price goes up dramatically. For the few times I’ve needed a 14k trailer, there’s a rental place 15 minutes away that actually does a decent job maintaining their fleet. Knock on wood.. I wish I would have gone with a 10k car hauler, but I got such a good deal in the 7k and I was in a rush for it, it works great for what I need.

    I also have an aluminum 7x16 enclosed that is my workhorse. It weighs all of 1600 lbs empty with 7k capacity. I pull it several times a month, one of which is is usually 5-7k lbs for a couple of hours round trip. It has held up very well and pulls exceptionally well. The weight savings gives me almost as much capacity as as a 10k trailer so it was worth the extra coin at the time. Unfortunately, the price for that trailer has almost doubled since I purchased it 5 years ago.

    In the case of a car hauler, I’d prolly stick with steel, but with a larger main tube unless you have the extra money and really need the weight savings. Then I don’t see anything wrong with it unless you really plan on hammering on it to get to the trails. Mine sees occasional gravel roads and is fine.
     
  19. Jun 30, 2025 at 4:05 PM
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    They probably fixed the one blown out tire and sent it back out the next day without even thinking about it. There should absolutely be a saftey inspection checklist for every piece of rental equipment when it comes back in and before it goes out. They probably try to dodge this and pencil whip as much as possible to avoid liability/accountability when stuff like this goes south. Glad you got your $300 dollars back at least, what a hassle!
     
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    I think common sense says if you lose one tire on a tandem axle you replace both on that side if the blowout happens while loaded. I actually replaced all four since the tires were close to 4 yrs old.
     
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    From what I have experienced, if you blow the tire on the forward axle there's a good chance that the tires behind the one that blew is damaged. Kinda like getting peppered by a shotgun. Not a direct hit...but does some damage.
     
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    I learned my lesson on pulling axle shafts to replace bearings, and deciding not to replace the axle seals. Everything was fine for over a month...till I parked on a slant to one side for a couple days. Saw the dreaded gear oil running out of the drum onto the inside of the tire. My guess is that the axle seals weren't leaking before because there was so little oil in the differential (this is an old Ford truckbed trailer with the rear axle/differential intact).

    So now I'll be pulling the axle shafts again. It's possible I damaged them while pulling the shafts, but it's more likely they were decades past their prime and if the rear diff actually had more than a couple pints of oil, they would have been leaking before.
     
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    When adjusting your trailer brakes, don't get too aggressive when the star nut will tighten the pads but not loosen it back even though you move the pawl out of the way.

    Especially don't break your "good enough for the job" screwdriver and lose the piece inside the brake drum. This will require you to take the wheel, bearing and drum off just to get it out.

    Double especially don't over tighten the pads first and then break your wrong tool for the job. It makes the drum very, very, very, very difficult to remove.

    In an RV storage lot.

    After a rain.

    Surrounded by mosquitoes.

    And you have to pee.

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    I'll make sure to pee before I attempt this job.
     
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    The trailer maintenance we all hate. Removing old decking, grinding, removing rust, welding on broken tabs, etc.

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    I got a quote to sandblast the whole trailer for 2850.00.

    Another guy said he could do 500.00 per 600 lbs of sand. So I may have him hit the hard to do areas and then I'm on my own.

    Decking. On my application, hardwood is the only way to go. Pressure treated pine is fine for 7k or less applications. Self tapping screws are a plus. I will be driving the screws in and then removing. Then put some anti seize on the screws and reinstall.

    paint or ???

    I am using truck bed liner and spraying it on. It just seems to hold up longer than powder coating. Another thing to consider is installing some kind of rock plate (aluminum diamond plate) up front. Even on my new trailer that was purchased this year is showing signs of powder coating failing. I will most likely be installing some rock tamers to the hitch.

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    Most of my towing miles are boat trailers. The few things I'll add to this discussion.
    1. Before a long tow I jack up each wheel to give it a spin and shake to make sure there is not too much play in the bearing.
    2. I use 4 conductor light wire from Ancor with heat shrink connectors. I don't use the trailer frame as the ground for tail/running lights.
    3. Check your jack and/or carry a jack that will lift your trailer. Same for the lug wrench.
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    300 hectares on single tank of kerosene
    I don't know anything about boats, but how do you launch that without drowning your truck?
     
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