Dry rot on tires- 23 TRD limited

Hi all,

I have a 2023 Tundra with the original Falken Wildpeak AT3s. I was washing my truck and noticed dry rot on my tires. Is this normal? I’m going to the dealer Monday to see if they are defective. I have 30k miles on them. I talked to Falken and they said dry rot is warrantied and would give me a prorated credit if it’s defective

Thanks

 

You're lucky to have gotten 30k out of those tires. Consider yourself fortunate and buy some new (better) tires. Falken won't do anything for this. The tread depth looks non-existent? It will also help if you stay off the curbs. Good luck.

 

Honestly the inside tread is well above the warning strip. The outside of the tires are bald even though Toyota performed all the maintenance / tire rotations. For a 60k truck they should have come with tires that can last more than 30k and not dry rot in two years. I use the truck for work so I don’t really care about scuffing up the wheels.

 

LOL. Best of luck sir.

 

OEM Toyota tires only last about 25k on any vehicle from my experience buying Toyotas. This is due to being a softer compound version of the same tire you would otherwise buy at retail (aka its not the same tire). This is to primarily have a standard tire that is more flexible (so boomers think it rides “smooth”) and generally better grip (supposedly but not in my experience) and lower cost.

30k on OEM tires? 4/32nds of tread? Got your money’s worth and won’t get a warranty on those unless you pull a Karen in the dealership.

Best upgrade for any vehicle are good tires.

 

Inside good and outside bald is perfect description of out of alignment. You definitely couldn’t have gotten more miles out if those. Tire rotations alone will not fix alignment issues and Toyota will not perform an alignment unless you ask them and pay.

 

In my experience, all OEM tires suck. Even Michelins.
Lucky to get 30K on any of the trucks listed below.

 

What is your trim package? If it’s a TRD Pro…which they look to be same tires/wheels but maybe it’s different trim. If it’s a Pro there is a TSB for premature tire wear due to incorrect alignment from the factory. I got it done on mine. Re alignment & 2 new front tires. 3k miles later and the outside of the new replacements are wearing faster than they did before. Have it going into the dealer next week to check that out amongst some other issues. Will see if they align again and replace tires. I agree with others though…definitely I will just be getting other tires soon. Always good to see if warranty can take care of the issue though.

 

It’s a 23 limited with the TRD off-road package. I went to the dealer and they checked my tread depth it’s was 5.5/32nds and agreed on the dryrot and gave me a 43 percent credit toward a new pair based off the value of the tires I have.

The downside is the dealer said they can only get the same tire. Which I’m not interested in. Now I just have to find a local tire shop willing to submit the warranty paperwork. Falken also said they will still credit me towards another brand which is great too.

 

That whole response is unreal to me.

43% tire credit? Can't get any other ones....at a CAR DEALER? Did you buy this second hand? A real toyota dealer should not be this stupid.

 

Correct. The dealer sent the warranty paperwork to Falken. Falken came back and offered a prorated warranty based off my tread (I have 31,000miles on them). They are still the factory wildpeak tires. If you go on Toyotas website they are having a buy 3 get 1 free deal now but they only have the original wild peak at3A which has no mileage warranty. They are $400 each which is extremely overpriced. It gives no other option for that tire size and that is what the service rep told me

I’m going to make some more calls today to other dealers

edit: I called Falken and asked what the “value” of my 43% warranty is and they said they can’t give a value because every tire location will have a different “value” for the original tires that they are basing their 43% credit from. Seems absurd to me but that’s what I’m told. Falken also can’t recommend any dealers that will submit the paperwork other than a dealer which is also absurd to me. They said it’s up to the tire shops if they are willing to do it. So they warranty their OEM tires for dryrot but make it nearly impossible to receive the credit. I called a few local tire shops and they are not willing to do the paperwork because I didn’t purchase the tires there

 

That makes more sense from Falkens side. It stinks they seem to be requiring you to buy the same tires over again though. You would think you could use it on any tire they offer. Good luck!

 

They’re not requiring I purchase the same tire. It’s just that Toyota said it’s the only tire they have to offer in that size. They don’t have access to other brands etc. I’ll do more homework today and call other dealers

 

Good luck but don't hold your breath. I just had a Tundra come in yesterday with the OEM Bridgestone Dueler tire on it he had the same dry rot right by the rim. My tire rep called Bridgestone sent pictures they said nope that's sun damage which causes the tire to become dry and brittle plus he had like 40k on the tires. They really wanted nothing to do with it. All OEM tires suck.

Plus its not Toyotas issue to warranty the tire it is on the tire manufacturer. Some dealers have a dedicated tire rep on site but some do not.

 

I’m at 8800 miles all four are dry rotted on our 23 limited trd off-road too. I start a 2800 mile road trip with our Rv at 6am. Just noticed while airing them up this evening. Seeing this is a common issue is not comforting

 

Call Falken and the dealer where you bought the truck. They should offer a prorated warranty towards a new set. The new set doesn’t have to be replaced with Falkens. I got a set of Yokohama geolanders from the dealer, with a partial credit from Yokohama.

 

I'm more interested in how old the tires are, as far as rot is concerned. I agree with the others, don't expect much at all from OEM tires.

Check the DOT number on all four tires. The last four digits represent the week and year of the tire. 4519 would be 45th week of 2019.

 

My tire was 3522. Tundra was a 2023

 

Cool, thanks. Reasonable for that MY. I wondered if they snuck a super old tire on ya.

 

I've been going road-racing, on road-courses, for multiple decades. I've used many sets of tires in my life, many brands of tires. Buy em just to try em stuff.

I've had sets that I burned up in 500 miles of track use, have had sets i stretched out for 5 track days and 10k street miles. I've had street tires that I've made last for 75k miles.

Basically, I've played with lots of tires.

This DRY-ROT issue it can be avoided to some degree. How? Keeping the tires free of too much brake dust build up. The iron particles in brake dust embed into the wheels and tires. And they are microscopically sharp.

The more it builds up on the sidewall, the more brown the tire looks, and the more it gets cut up looking, and if you use silicone based tire dressings you're cooking to the tire in direct sunlight. And let's just say someone drives in a manner where they bang the sidewall into curb a lot. The tire will look bad in less than a year.

I use SONAX wheel cleaner, German made stuff, and i use it on the sidewalls of the tires too. It literally unbinds all the brake dust off the tires and wheels. Then I use a non silicone based plastic dressing with UV protection properties. That set of michelins I'm on right now have 20k miles, and look fine. I've had michelins look crusty and brown in a year if not cleaned.

Bridgestones from my experience get brown super fast. More than other brands. Falken if kept clean, cleaning every other month, can last just fine.

30k miles of use is still a good amount of use. They are used tires at that point.

I get 50k+ miles out of michelins on my 2019. I do drive just normal. I don't accelerate too hard or brake too hard, just normal. But I do know if I drove harder it would be less miles, 30k probably.

I even take the wheels off once a year and get the brake dust off the inside of the wheel and tire. I believe it helps in the tires life, if you want to get max use out of it.

Sonax does all the work, I'm not scrubbing anything, or exerting force. Sonax and detailing brush($2 from Amazon), then hose pressure to blast off.

Bf Goodrich and Firestone turn brown fast.
Cheap Chinese tires turn brown fast.
I'm a michelin man, they cost more. But they last long and treat me well.

Oh yeah, the tundra brakes on gen 2 got big, they make a lot of dust. Gen 3 even bigger brakes, more dust. Probably why tires get crusty faster. If you switch to ceramic pads you'll trade braking power for less iron dust, if you don't want to clean tires a few times a year, they'd last longer.