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Discussion in '3rd Gen Tundras (2022+)' started by shane1, May 14, 2025.

  1. May 18, 2025 at 11:53 AM
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    That's on the newest gen 5.0, and I honestly have no issue with it. They've tested it out to something like 1100 HP and loads of miles with no issue. The 5.0 isn't the problem in the F150. It's everything around it.

    If I could twinkle my nose and have that 5.0 paired with the Aisin in my Tundra I'd do it in a heartbeat. The 5.0 is really good.
     
  2. May 18, 2025 at 12:02 PM
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    You didn't have a coherent point because I never suggested the thing you were attacking. But, you directly called my suggestion to use AI as a research tool retarded, and implied that I advocate replacing personal research entirely with AI even though I never did. Then claimed this absurd. The absurdity was you trying to use me as a straw man representing AI.
     
  3. May 18, 2025 at 12:20 PM
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    With Ford’s quality control and overall excesses spent on warranty issues, I would not trust it. Plastic, one-use oil pan right underneath it? No thanks. Lots of discussion out there on wet belt issues.
     
  4. May 18, 2025 at 12:28 PM
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    Oh, if you want to try and argue semantics to salvage your position, we can play that game.


    I didn't say your suggestion was retarded, I said AI is retarded. I said that your suggestion was bad advice. See receipt.

    I then pointed out that you are ignoring a qualifier that AI summaries themselves point out, and that is that AI can include mistakes. See receipt.

    You then provided more summaries with known errors and mistakes from AI, and I said that those mistakes highlight how outsourcing critical thinking is retarded. You are saying that I implied that you were advocating that, but if you are going to infer that implication and we stay intellectually consistent then your initial statement that the AI should be used is also "implying" that you take the AI summary at face value. That WOULD be outsourcing the critical thinking. Either both are implied or neither are. You can't have it both ways.
    And, yes, taking the AI summary at face value even though they all are prone to inaccuracies is an absurd practice.

    There is no straw man, and you are not representing AI. You are suggesting AI be used instead of doing the research yourself, and that is bad advice because AI is retarded and gets things wrong on a regular basis, conflates unrelated statements to bolster its flawed premise, and saying otherwise is absurd.
     
  5. May 18, 2025 at 1:41 PM
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    The oil pan on the current 5.0 is steel. The plug is plastic, however.

    Yes, there are discussions on wet belt issues going back decades. There have also been these wet belts in the 5.0 since the 2021 model year and I could not find a single problem or issue stemming from them on the engine. Only complaints about past wet belt technologies being problematic. There are plenty of trucks with over 100K miles that have had no issues with it. Not saying I'm a fan over the gear driven one they had before, but there's also no evidence of issues in this application.
     
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  6. May 20, 2025 at 8:42 PM
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    Well if I need to clue you in....:D AI is considered retarded because people take it as gospel with no question whatsoever. "It is a computer search, blah, blah. drawing of several sources, blah, burp, puke"
    I'm getting sick as I type this.

    BRB :D

    People want YOUR thoughts and experience on the issue. You can train a monkey to cut and paste. (But you can't train a monkey to know how to ask AI a question.) Most of them don't even read all of what they cut and paste. They find the answer to their point and then assume it is true.

    The first question I ask any engine is "Is it possible for AI to give biased answers based on its initial training?" Depending on the answer, I'll either ditch the site or try probe it down on its biases. The probing is if it admits it. If the engine denies it, I just leave the site as it is not capable of telling the truth.
     
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  7. May 21, 2025 at 11:45 AM
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    This is exactly what I thought this thread could turn into. Hey @GODZILLA and @gdisarray, Thanks for proving my point.
     
  8. May 21, 2025 at 12:19 PM
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    Glad to be of service. :hattip:
     
  9. May 21, 2025 at 10:30 PM
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    Glad I could help out as well as @GODZILLA for helping you. @szabo101 If you need further education about AI, let someone know. We'll be happy to edumacate you further. I bet you used to C&P from Wikipedia before AI came along. :rofl:
     
  10. May 22, 2025 at 5:05 AM
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    Can somebody just shoot this thread already :infantry:
     
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    There's a handy button at the bottom of every post that can be used to request a lock or cleanup of a thread.

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  12. May 22, 2025 at 11:31 AM
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    Thanks Ace:thumbsup:
     
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    I'm outta here. Really nothing more to say.

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  14. May 23, 2025 at 5:44 AM
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    Too many, but not enough....
    Thanks guys, you all never disappoint. Laying in bed bored waiting for my kids to wake up for school, just killed 40 minutes reading grown men argue like children about dumbass shit hahaha
     
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    Air ride is often horrible out of the factory because they set them up to be riding on the bump stops. Once you adjust the ride level, it gets much better.

    ask me how I know
     
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    Just to illustrate why AI is borderline useless I asked if the 2025 Tundra's locker could be used in 4 Hi.

    Everything highlighted in yellow is wrong.

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    This would be an absolute piss off to anyone who "researched" and then got a dose of reality.
     
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  17. May 23, 2025 at 9:23 AM
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    I asked Grok. :notsure:
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  18. May 23, 2025 at 12:25 PM
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    Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and again.
     
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    I just treat it like a search engine with a personality. If you’re not checking the web page sources it provides, you run the risk of error.

    I think they’re useful (biased toward grok). But ultimately they’re just compiling and reading our own data back to us. If there’s enough misinformation out there on a subject, it’ll spit it right back out to us.
     
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    Because I'm bored and the choice is keep reading this or pull weeds, I have a question. Where did the word "Grok" originate?
     
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    LOL.


    It has been several years ago that Facebook had to shut down two AI engines. Turns out they were talking to each other and they had developed their own language that the engineers couldn't understand. So they shut them down.

    This one is more recent....

    AI engine resorts to blackmail to avoid being shut down. ( They gave it access to a few fake emails ) And this crap is just in its infancy.

    https://techcrunch.com/2025/05/22/a...ckmail-when-engineers-try-to-take-it-offline/
     
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    I'm not going to lie, I love the Sienna! I had a 23 limited as a loaner for about a month it was great. I'm 6'5 300lbs and it was one of the most comfortable ride I've had and the MPG was legit. I was seriously contemplating a new AWD Sienna however they are some of the hottest cars on the market in So Cal. You have to order them or purchase unseen in transit to snag one and the trim level I wanted was on par with the Limited tundra's
     
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    they are nice , this 25th anniversary one is super nice inside

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