Engine blew at 32K, fighting for full replacement

Will a Toyota dealer take a warranty truck with a blown engine on trade for full value?

I'm guessing no. Id be tempted, once repaired, to drive it to the sales lot and trade it on the spot.

 

Says another 2nd gen owner. Most of us 3rd gen owners are super happy with our trucks. Therefore, your comment doesn't count.

 

I would say the first part of that statement is highly dependent on what year it is and whether or not it falls under the recall.

 

No insult intended but this is a wayyyyyy more thoughtful approach than I expected from a user: RDubs.

For real solid plan. I was initially going to chime in with the "have the dealer replace it and then tell them you want full trade in value as if it was never replaced and buy a 25" but yeah, after getting burned like this, stick with your idea.


Tangent: how has Toyota not come up with a way to create TMOM, that just feels like the right thing.

 

TMOM?

 

Just a stupid old joke where if you can't think of anything to say you default to: "so's your mom". So... TMOM

 

Even Google is confused..this is definitely before our time.



I guess the safest way to keep new tundras reliable is not to drive them. Keep them in garage and grab a camry to run out to get a soda pop.

 

I have the same build date as yours . Truck has died on the highway before the recall was even announced. But i pulled over and restarted it and everything was normal. Took it into Toyota at the time and was told it was my mods. I’m crossing my fingers they extend the recall as well. But for now I drive that thing as gingerly as possible

 

There was one guy on here that drove 10k after a random shutdown and then he lost the engine. The dealer claimed he spun a bearing at that time and the oil holes became miss-aligned. I call BS on that one. No way a dry, spun bearing lasted 10k.

I've also had a random shutdown.

 

They said they couldn’t replicate the problem? What’s your build date?

 

You may have damages, but Toyota isn't obligated to protect your resale value - just fulfill the terms and conditions of the warranty. If manufacturers could get sued for bad resale value Tesla would be in court every day.

 

Sucks and I’m sorry OP. This kind of story and his treatment by Toyota is 100% why I’m driving a 2025 GMC 2500HD AT4 now vs a new Platinum or 1794. What do you think will happen to guys who are outside of the powertrain warranty and have the exact failure that resulted in this recall? Those guys are gonna be SOL with a $25K+ repair bill plus the hit to resale. No thank you.

 

if you think GM is going to treat you better if shit happens, you're kidding yourself.

 

Could be debatable since GM announced universal 150k mile warranty on the 6.2 recall. That said - I don't think I'll own a newer GM.

 

To the OP, you will be getting more than just a short block. I bet the tech will replace anything oil passes through.....minus the turbos, Toyota wants pics of damage to the turbos before they will authorize replacement. The heads can be cleaned, cam gears will get replaced, oil strainer, front cover....thats how most dealers seem to be handling them anyways

 

Good luck op! It seems like blown engines (and a multitude of other issues) are the norm these days with all the big manufacturers.
Advances in technology doesn't seem to be helping. No one can manage (or cares enough) to build a proper truck anymore.

I'm going to walk outside and gently pat the hood of my 2019 and ask it to hold together until I die...

 

IDK, an extended 10-125K is only 2K (ish) from toyota so even if you had to pay, thats the only difference, but I get what your saying.

they took way longer to do anything than toyota did though, but to each their own.

I liked a lot about the GMC, the seats were absolutely a disaster , so awful

 

Better yet have toyota buy you one as part of the deal

 

How might GM treat me worse? Im not going to defend GM other than to say I drove the new tundras, the new GMC and the new Ford. I’d have a Tundra if Toyota was responding to this exact kind of situation better. You’re kidding yourself if you think a $25K+ repair bill isn’t in the future for some 3G Tundra owners. IMO a lot of you 3G guys lose all objectivity and defend the indefensible just to put your own mind at ease that somehow the motor issue won’t happen to you. The fact is, your chances of your motor shitting out are exactly the same as every other 3G owner +\- a few months from your build date. You’re kidding yourself if you think any 3G is immune at this point.

And Toyota only authorizing a shitty short block cobbled back together in a tech bay with some used and some new parts that’ll be replaced based on Toyota approval? And then a 12 month 12K warranty? I’m a die hard Toyota fan boy, I’m sure I’ve owned more Toyotas than most, but the 3.4TT bearings aren’t the only thing lacking lube these days. That response is worse than what Hyundai and Kia are doing. And who knows, but it seems to be worse than what GM has in the works as well. Only time will tell I suppose.

 

what the hell are you talking about Pat?

Im kidding myself if I think 3G is immune, kidding myself about repair bills, losing objectivity?

you're making up arguments, lol

All I said was GM is not going to treat you better, I didn’t even say “worse”,

take it easy, it’s ok, nobody is going to force you to drive a 3rd gen tundra

 

Agreed.

My recent experience with GM last year confirmed their reputation for not supporting products much past 5-7 years.

Couldn’t source collision repair parts for the beloved 2015 Chevrolet SS (Holden Commodore SS). A deeper search revealed you can’t get a lot of parts for that car anymore. GM doesn’t provide much in the way of replacement parts of any sort beyond the LS3, and 6L80E.

I might grudgingly buy a GM product again but nothing low volume, and I have no illusions about how they treat customers.

 

Good for you.

The OP’s truck is not living up to that expectation and it seems that an alarming number of 3rd Gen Tundras have also not lived up to that expectation.

Unfortunately 1/2 ton pickups are in a shitty spot for emissions, and fuel economy regulations. In order to do expected 1/2 ton things they need to make power and torque at current levels in this market because that is what customers demand, but they have to meet .gov regulations. So we have complicated smaller displacement engines with turbochargers, or large displacement naturally aspirated engines with cylinder deactivation, and one lone turbo diesel. None of them from any manufacturer are living up to expectations. They all have problems it seems.

Midsize trucks seem to be doing fine with smaller turbocharged gasoline engines, but they’re not being asked to make as much power or work under as much load. The T24A-FTS in my 2024 Land Cruiser is making less specific torque per liter than the V35A-FTS, and benefits from an extra main bearing to handle thrust on the bottom end. T24A’s so far across a variety of applications are proving to be Toyota reliable.

At this point if someone wants a better chance at a mechanically reliable full size truck they are probably better off considering a 3/4 ton with a simple gas V8. For those who can tolerate complications and reduced reliability, you might as well enjoy prodigious power and the big turbo diesels provide that in spades.

 

They are obliged to sell parts for 10 more years since the last car left the house. After that it's all either old stock, OEM parts (from factory parts suppliers, like Bosch or Denso) or independent aftermarket. And junk yards, of course.

 

This was my reasoning for my switch when the time came.

 

My build date was right before the cutoff. No recall notification for me. While at the dealer I had them check it too. Nada.

Weird

 

I beg to differ, some friends of ours have a Kia burning a quart of oil every 100 miles and the dealership kept doing oil consumption tests and bullshitting them until the vehicle rolled past 100,000 miles and then dropped the hammer and told them they couldn't help them. Nevermind the process started at 95,000 miles over 8 months ago, "No soup for you!"

 

I call it BS. The day the customer kicked the dealer's door is the official date of warranty claim, no matter how much time it took them to "diagnose". It takes very little education to know your rights, at least the very basics of it.

 

Agreed. My last GM product was my last GM product. I had a loaded Sierra Denali w/6.2...dropped lifter at 7K miles or so. Even had a small fight with them to cover the costs as they were looking for any reason to deny warranty. They are 20 years or so into this AFM/DFM and still can't get it right.

 

Tell that to GM, because there was nothing available anywhere.