Higher mileage without engine failure?

Hello everyone,

I rarely buy a new vehicle. I'm in my late 50's and bought my 2023 Tundra with the plan to keep it 15 years...essentially the last new truck I'll buy.

Figured a Toyota was a good bet based on past experiences with a Camry and a Sienna.

My build date is past the engine recall, but what if Toyota hasn't really fixed the manufacturing and/or design flaw. Maybe they knew they could only provide so many motors, and dealers would get back up, so they picked the date based on that more than having resolved the problem.

I'm looking for a bit of hope here by asking the forum...Does anyone have higher mileage with no engine/turbo issues?

Would love to hear from folks who have more than 80k miles on an original motor.

Thanks!
Don

 

Don, you have nothing to worry about unless you don't document your oil changes or have it done at a Toyota dealer. I'm in the same boat and had a used oil analysis done for my peace of mind. Toyota is famous for taking care of customers. I ran a small Toyota store in the late 80's early 90's. If the engine does fail you will be taken care of and probably get a real nice loaner while they fix it. 19k 0n my 2/23 build just out of the recall.

 

I've got 75K on my '22. Just recently got back a clean oil sample.

EDIT: I did upload it in that oil analysis thread

 

Autotrader has routinely had multiple high mileage (greater than 100k a few 150k+) rigs for sale at anytime for past 2 years plus. Dont know the maintenance history but given owners have often been without their trucks for many months for the short block build an engine training projects, hard to imagine they accumulated those miles if their trucks were hangar queens

For turbos is there any failure trend after the early ones? Turbos are not never a zero fail component considering they spin at very high rates.

 

I only have 16K miles on mine, but just did oil analysis at 15K and got a clean bill of health. So far, so good. Controversially, I switched over to 5w-30 at the 15K oil change, which I will use from here on out. I just don't trust oil with the properties of tap water.

 

Quite a few guys on the professional fishing tour are using 22 and newer tundras to tow their boats all over the country. I haven’t heard of them having issues.

enjoy your truck. We can agree there is an issue but, don’t buy into the hype every single truck is a ticking time bomb and it’s the worst Toyota ever made. When you drive look around to see how many 22 and newer tundras are out there. In my area it’s quite a bit.

 

Check out tundra dude 34 on YouTube, he has a video of some he had found. There is some very high mileage 22’s out there with original motor’s

 

@389 24/7 seems to be the champ-https://www.tundras.com/threads/gen3-100k-mile-club.144846/

 

40,000 miles on my '23 including pulling a trailer across the country and back with no engine problems (yet ).

 

67k on my 23

 

30k on my 24 Limited TRD OR (Oct 23 Build date) besides the fuel gauge showing full on 3/4 of a tank on an incline. No issues, driven to Las Vegas and back. Daily commute from Colorado Springs to Aurora for work

 

But the engineers at Toyota do? I'm afraid the thicker oil would be too viscous to flow through all the passages properly, adequately, fast enough, etc. I'd rather use what the manufacturer specs.

No offense, but I have just never understood the logic behind disregarding what a manufacturer specs to be used in their product because you feel something else is "better". These engines have very tight tolerances and I'm sure that was kept in mind when they spec'ed the oil. I'm sure 90% of it is for fuel economy standards, but what about the other 10%?

 

I just traded out my 22 Tundra with 99k. My truck drove flawless and other than some TSB’s (updates), recalls, brakes, and oil changes….thats it. It killed me to trade out because the thought of getting a new engine with over 100,000 miles on the truck was so tempting. The dealer made me an offer I couldn’t refuse. I recently picked up a 24 that is the exact same truck.

 

118k atm

 

Looks like 163k is the highest in that YouTube video with tundra dude 34

I'm down 40k
Need to do some long trips & catch up
Hehehe

 

When the manufacturer puts in the owners manual 0w-20 for USA but up to 20w-50 everywhere else in the world, what does that tell you?

It tells me it’s about environmental standards not what’s best for the machine.


And if I get to play, I have 486k miles on the Toyotas in my driveway. And no, I don’t run 0w-20.

 

I shudder to think what would happen in short order if 20w-50 was put into this engine.

 

You might lose 1 mpg and hear a smoother running engine.

 

In AZ, maybe you could get away with it long-term....but that stuff flows like honey when it's cold. To each his own though.

 

I'm not trying to convince anybody to do what I did. If you want to go by manufacturer specs, have at it. These are same people that are telling you 10k oil changes and some manufacturers tell you lifetime fill on transmission fluid. Because they're in the business to sell more vehicles and parts, not to help you make your vehicle last longer. They go out of business if everybody takes exceptional care of their vehicle and doesn't buy a new one every so often. If you want to pay for failures or new cars every so often, follow the "engineers" recommendations. I prefer to go by actual science and common sense. To each their own bro, no offense taken.

 

I can see that point of view. Out of curiosity, how long have you been running the thicker oil and how many miles on truck so far?

 

So far less than 2K miles on the thicker oil. But, I used to run thicker oil in my F150 Ecoboosts when Ford recommended 5w30 for over 150k combined mileage and never had an engine issue or the dreaded Ecoboost oil leak either. My son also switched his Tundra to 5w30 recently. Both engines got much quieter and ran smoother. I'll also change my transmission, diffs, and transfer case fluids every 30k and my coolant every 50k. Fluids and coolant are cheaper than transmissions, diffs, transfer cases, head gaskets, radiators, etc. I can't hurt anything to go a little overboard on maintenance. It can hurt to go under or follow manufacturer recommendations at times.

 

Is it published in Toyota's literature somewhere that other ranges of viscocity are permissible in other parts of the world? I've looked through and didn't see it but maybe I missed it or it's not listed in my US-only documentation?

It just seems dicey to me to risk a different oil with all the engine issues going around.

 

I've seen the literature some of the oil guys on YouTube have posted. It's out there, I just know where to get it. Maybe BITOG? I get there's risk if my bearings fail, but there's also reward if they don't. It's just a risk I'm willing to take, because I view the risk as minimal and the benefit outweighs the risk to me. Not everybody is comfortable with that. That's why I'm not trying to talk anybody into it, just voicing what I do and why. Also voicing that the manufacturer is not looking out for your best interest, which is 100% fact.

 

I just used 0W-30 in my last oil change. I tow quite frequently so my thinking was the same viscosity when cold for the same flow and a little more viscosity when she's warmed up and the juices are already flowing.

 

May be worth your while to look up viscosity tables to educate yourself rather than depend on someone telling you.

 

I believe the Land Cruiser 300 sold in Australia , Middle East, Japan, South America, etc. has the same TTV6 and they spec it with 5W-30. Now there may be some minor differences but it’s essentially the same engine. There is a lot of politics and less true engineering behind why the NA vehicle specs are different. The people behind that must not be able to comprehend the cost to scrap vehicles or expensive parts to the environment vs. a few extra gallons of fuel or oil/fluids. Really poor forward thinking.

 

So you’re running 20w-50??? Am I understanding that correctly?

 

No, he said he switched to 5W30. That's what Ford specs for their 3.5 Ecoboost. Here is the oil specs for the V35A in Europe...

https://www.toyota-club.net/files/techdata/ttx/lexus_lx_300e.htm

They only show up to a 10W30. The EU has very similar weather to NA so any spec that is OK in the EU would given common sense also be OK in NA.

The only time you may need a thicker oil would be possibly the Middle East but that's not pertinent to this discussion.

 

Okay…I totally understand the 5w-30 then lol it’s on my mind to switch to that as well tbh