Any rabid anti gunners in your life?

My dad used to be. Especially an AR-15. He never understood the 30 round mag. He really doesn’t understand anything about guns.

I put the 30 round mag in perspective for him. God forbid two people are breaking into your house both have the 10 round mag allowed by your thinking. (Which criminals don’t follow laws hence breaking into your house.) You have a 10 round mag because you are a law abiding citizen how do you think that would turn out? You have 5 shots to hit each or make them run away. Think about it. He was speechless than said “ I never looked at it that way”

 

I very much disagree. This gun culture that’s started isn’t healthy. This idea that you have to blatantly show them and talk about them and boast about them and argue about them and start fights over them isn’t good. You might not agree but that’s my belief. I do not like how open and freely these things have become discussed and truly believe this is why we have some of the issues we do in this country. These idiots walking around blatantly showing them off and carrying their AR’s around to go to the store look like complete dumbasses with an ego and ego’s and guns do not mix. I own a ton, I have a chl, I just bought another one, but it’s all kept out of sight and only discussed with a select few friends because frankly no one needs to know what I do or don’t have.

 

It's not about agreeing or disagreeing. It's documented. History is factual and not subject to your opinion. This nation was founded by people who openly owned and used firearms ranging from muskets and the like all the way up to and including cannons and artillery. It's how we fought for our independence. With lots of privately owned military grade hardware.

The issue today has nothing to do with firearms, their prevalence, or visibility. It's an issue of ever increasing narcissism to the point that some feel justified in any means being used to right whatever "wrongs" they perceive to have been the recipient of. The replacement of personal responsibility as a priority with self-esteem and feelings is the issue.

 

I talk about my guns to like minded people I know. Otherwise not to anybody outside my household, and I've reinforced for my 9 year old they're a private family matter. Not aversion to gun culture, just don't consider it street smart for everyone in my community to know what I got at home. I'll talk all day about it to people I know and trust.

Politics is downwind of culture. Anti gunners work to instill aversion to the culture in the next generation to make them more open to legislation. Being a proud gun owner is part of being a 2a advocate.

 

The gun culture you describe is directly due to the anti-gun crowd fighting the 2nd Amendment. More people (as a percentage of the population) owned guns in the early 1900's than today, but it was considered absolutely normal. What you don't like (and frankly, I don't like it either) is in direct rebellion to the anti-gun crowd. It is what it is. If the haters weren't constantly attacking the 2nd Amendment, this culture you describe would likely not exist.

 

Valid view, but you may want to edit it because the L word gets flagged as politics. Mods swing the hammer for that stuff.

 

My wife's not a fan of concealed carry, but she accepts it. She more avoid situations where you might need it. She also likes to shoot.

Without quoting a bunch of you, we have idiots around here that open carry AR15s slung around their neck in crowded public areas. Sure it's legal, but what the fuck is wrong with you? With mass shootings in so many headlines all that does is make people edgy, including those carrying concealed. Whatever point they're trying to make is lost.

 

Thanks for the catch. Done.

 

When I started the thread I wasn't thinking about family members. I posted because I met with a client that day that probably wouldn't like the fact I was carrying a 1911.

 

It's always some chubby assed dude with a full frame on his hip looking like a douche. I laugh because I usually have 2 on me and you'd never know it.

 

I think open carry should happen MORE. It needs to be destigmatized. People need to get over having a fucking panic attack because a gun is in the room. Nobody's rights end just because some puss is uncomfortable seeing a firearm.

 

It needs to be done properly 1st and foremost, I don't see much of that going on. It's usually a drop holster that doesn't fit properly or it's hanging half off the belt loop pointed at their knee. You'd think there would be a class on how to open carry and do it safely/securely.

 

Honestly, I'd love to see a firearms class added to the school curriculum. It's a useful skill, education on it reduces fear, and it's a great way to meet people and make friends.

 

JROTC does something like that. They use .177 air rifles, perfect for training.

 

This is kind of a loaded answer for myself but I'll trim it down as far as I can.

I would say I've swung to the opposite direction most of my family has. My dad was brought up in a rural setting, but grew up in the late 60's and early 70's. He is an Air Force vet, and we hunted together when I was young. He even bought me my first hunting rifle for my 19'th birthday after carrying my Great Grandfathers hand me down .270. On the other side, my mother is an Air Force brat, moving all over the country/world following my Grandfathers Air Force career.

I was brought up respecting firearms and taught firearm safety. Now, in my mid-30's, I'd consider myself an enthusiast. I regularly hunt, train and target shoot. I have "a few" firearms, all with a different purpose, from hunting different species, protection and entertainment. Pistols, shotguns, multiple calibers of hunting rifles, and as said by others, a few of the dreaded black rifle variety.

But the way my mother talks about it, I have an arsenal that will eventually rise up and kill everyone in my house and show no discretion to age or anything. The way her hair flew straight up hearing the number I own was rather hilarious. I find it rather hypocritical, as my parents both own firearms, regularly ask advice on what they own, how to care, etc. But when mine (see above: arsenal) come up, they're dangerous and need to be registered and leave me, in her own words, with just the few bolt actions and shotguns for the purpose of hunting. I feel like my dad straddles the line partially because he believes it, and partially because he wants to keep my mom happy.

My sister-in-law, though she hasn't actually come out and spoken to me about it, probably thinks in the same way based on the few conversations I've been a part of. My brother, poor guy, has sold me family heirloom rifles because, in what seems to me his heavily veiled words, has no need for. The tone and inflection in which he says it screams that my sister-in-law doesn't approve. I'm surprised he still has his Glock.

I've taught both my children from a very young age the basics of firearm safety appropriate for their ages. My 11-year-old will be deer hunting with me hopefully this coming season. My 4-year-old has known and can recite the 4 basic rules of firearm safety and has been able to since about 2. I fall under the belief that they should be handled, educated and practiced from a young age because fear of something only amplifies ignorance.

Because of this, I think my parents have basically considered me a lost cause in their arguments for "gun control" and rarely bring it up, which is fine by me, I'd rather not burn the bridge with family over it.

Other than that, I live near and work in Boulder, CO, so, you do the math on that one

 

Dude, that meme is EPIC.

 

Open carry haters AsSeMbLe!

The antis I can understand but the pros confuse me. I don't recall the 2nd Amendment stating "the right to keep and bear concealed...." LOL

I also don't understand the name calling. What is a "douche?" What does one look like?

Personally I hate tattoos as I think they make the skin look "dirty." However I wouldn't call someone a name for exercising the right to get a tattoo.

I must admit though, most open carry I see is in very basic holsters with little to no retention. I'd like to see something more like a Safariland ALS or at least a thumb break.

I've open carried enough, both while being paid to do so and on my own time, to know it's a deterrent. Take two days ago. Client confused why a closed apartment has a $700 dollar electric bill. We go in, change locks, start tossing everything into the dumpster. I wasn't there to see it as I left to get my trailer for the furniture's trip to the landfill but apparently 2 men show up on foot, cursing loudly. 5 more arrive by car, none-too-happy their free rental has come to an end. Client is a bit chubby, maybe they thought he looked like a "douche" or something (LOL). Disparity of force all day long there.....they get out of car......they notice client's OPENLY CARRIED "full frame" .45. They get back in car. Car drives off. Men on foot enter house across the street.

Client calls police who proceed to compliment his carry choice and rig (FNX Tactical in Andrews' Leather Monarch). I arrive, meet cop and shake hands. He's nice enough to stand by as we empty the place. He never had one negative thing to say about open carry or how that event went down.

We probably have at least two more days over there doing the clean up. My crew open carries so we aren't too worried...."word on the street" is we "are a bunch of retired cops." Kinda funny but crackheads see gun and think "cop!" We are OK with that. Maybe they think we are all "douches." LOL

 

This guy
Crackheads around here see a gun on your hip and they start plotting how they can get it off you

 

Did you tell that guy what you thought of him? LOL

Just kidding, that looks like an old dude and often they don't play. I work for some "old dudes" and in their time, busting a lip for an insult was "normal practice."

I was over at Walmart some years ago, I may have been open carrying that day, not sure. Up ahead of me is a man, thin but muscular, open carrying in a shoulder holster. Single action of some sort of wheel gun under left arm, large knife with antler handle under right, bandolier of 6 individual cartridges across his chest. He was about the most amazing example of open carry I'd ever seen! I wanted to get up there, meet him, and pose for a picture but he looked like he was in a hurry and I still had a buggy full of food to get onto the belt. Man he looked cool though!

I asked the cashier what he thought about it and this is what he said "I like seeing that, they won't let us carry so when I see that I feel safer."

 

Not that I know of. If any of my friends and acquaintances are hoplophobes, they at least have enough sense to never bring up the subject.

My little sister did ask one time why I carry a concealed handgun. I told her I tried carrying a whole cop, but they're way to heavy. She laughed and never mentioned it again.

 

Update:

We went back the next day, just the same crew (wife and I) with the client coming over for just a few minutes. While there I gave away two end tables and a coffee table to a lady that walked up and asked about them being on the trailer "sure, those are yours."

Wife and I open carried as it was quite warm and ya, we want them to see it. Client came over for just a few minutes. I took a reciprocating saw to the sofa and cut that into 4 pieces which made it a lot easier to get out of there. We also loaded up a dresser and bed. Tied down to trailer and was out by 4:15. No police presence this time.

Spoke with client last night. About 15 minutes after we left to haul the load of furniture to the dump, the guys came back! Tried to kick in the rear door again (IN THE DAYTIME!) Not in a million years would I have expected that! Police called, responded in force with three units. Door 2; bad guys 0. Unfortunately they didn't stick around for the po po.

Now why would seven men wait for two men and one woman to leave? Open carry works.

 

Naw. I guarantee pops can handle steel and can (and has) hole punch a coyote neck at 50 yards with that wheeler on his hip.



The worst offenders are the 50 pocket pants dorks in a hybrid hiking/tactical boot with a long gun that’s decked out in more furniture than your grandma’s living room.

edit: to answer the OP,
I don’t know of any, and if there are, they’re smart enough to keep it concealed.

 

I don't own a pistol and all of my guns are used for hunting. A few of my friends don't hunt or own a firearm but the topic never comes up. This is Pennsylvania, almost everyone has a weapon of some sort.

 

Concerning the BBC article, you'll have that with any right. Some people are stupid and others are evil.

As for PA "almost everyone has a weapon of some sort." If it isn't on their person they don't "have it."

I suspect I've open carried while in PA......I recall eating out at a nice restaurant one ski season and I can't imagine I left my heavy coat on the whole dinner. If anyone noticed they didn't seem to care. This would have been near Ski Roundtop Resort but I don't recall the name of the town or restaurant.

I feel the proper exercise of any right, done well and with a good demeanor, serves to inform the public and encourage acceptance.

But anyway, this topic has strayed once a member just had to bring up open carry.....which I should have seen coming.

 

My ol lady saw the meme and said, "F that if we are around a moron who says sh1t like that you can talk all you want."

 

To answer the OP's post: no. I don't associate with ppl who lack common sense.

Unfortunately, the right to bear arms is a political hotbed so I will mention that a very good friend of mine is on the opposite side of my political leanings. However, he was raised around guns, shoots them, and happens to do a damn good job of putting holes in places he wants them to go.

He also drinks whiskey, smokes cigars, can put a deer down and dress it. He's quite the oxymoron and probably why I have been able to call him friend for over a decade.

We disagree on the issue of gun control because he believes in "sensible legislation" while I believe in "shall not be infringed". Damn glad I live in TX.