Falken Wildpeak sizing advice requested

2021 stock TRDPro except I believe the PO installed spacers. Really trying to decide between sizes and models of Falken WP in the older and newer model. Here's what I'm debating so any input would be appreciated. These are screenshots from the Falken website of both the models in the older AT3 and newer AT4.
C rated vs E rated?
Ride quality?
Fit/rubbing?
275 vs 285?
285/70 vs 285/75?

 

First question is dealing w/the spacers... are you keeping them or removing them??? Spacers seem to be the death of clearance on our rigs. They give the tire some desired 'poke', but that poke pushes the tire outside of its clearance wheelhouse and seems to be the cause of rubbing for most folks.

If you remove the spacers, the 275s, 285/70s and 285/75s should all fit. The 285/75 may require a bit of messaging of the liners in the wheel wells, but most only claim minimal rubbing at full lock in reverse. With spacers the 285/75 will have some rubbing. I believe @Terndrerrr had no spacers and 285/75s original w/o issue, then he added spacers and ended up w/rubbing...

Es will always ride a bit harsher (depending on air pressure), but if you use the truck like a truck they provide extra layers of protection that come w/more plys. Usually they are heavier, so extra wear on components (especially w/spacers are pushing the offset out beyond OE specs). However, it's interesting that the 10ply 285/75s weigh less than the 6ply 285/70s...

So, based on that, I personally would remove the spacers, go w/the 285/75s (10-ply) which will give you a taller sidewall and more flexibility for airing down and such in off-road conditions, plus the added benefits of more load carrying ability and stronger sidewalls

 

Yep. Took them right off. Back to zero rubbing issues. 285/75R18s on OEM wheels with a 2” lift up front.

I will end up using the spacers, but only after installing new suspension and UCAs. I’m doing gears and a cab mount chop first. I will have 37s on Rock Warriors, and I’ll need the spacers to clear the new UCAs.

That’s the plan anyway.

 

Thanks for the input so far. I can go either way on the spacers, the PO must have installed them since the truck also has the bolt on fender flares. I took one side off to test and see if I liked the smooth look then reinstalled them so they've sort of grown on me but the small OEM tires just detract from the beefy look. Although they ride nice!
I'm keeping stock wheels unless I can find a set of bronze BBS Landcruiser anniversary wheels, and keeping stock ride height for now. I have considered the leveling kits or shackles at some point but current ride height is fine for me.
Also don't mind removing the front mudflap but would like minimal cutting and tweaking to the fender well if possible.
I also find it quite interesting that the c rated tire is heavier than the E?!
@Terndrerrr when you say 2" lift up front is that the stock lift or addition to the pro lift?
@Tripleconpanna your recommendation is the way I'm leaning, 285/75 and remove spacers and roll with it. Just a little concerned about the harsher ride of the E's and I only air down maybe a couple times a year and that's on sand at the coast, however my wife wants a travel trailer so maybe that's the smarter move long term?...
But this looks like a good deal for the 285/70...Decisions, decisions...
Looking through the threads this is the real look and inspiration I'm wanting. @COTundra23 !
https://www.tundras.com/threads/285-75-too-skinny.96576/page-3

 

Stock TRD Pro Fox kit height

 

When we talk about a harsher ride on E rated tires, keep this in mind... E rated will generally have a max PSI of 80lbs, which you'll almost never run the tire that high. I'm guessing you'll find somewhere in the 40-45 psi range ideal (unloaded). In other words a lot of jolty stiffness is going to be reduced at lower air pressures during normal conditions. No they will never ride like a P rated highway tire, but the benefits on the other side of the equation will probably outweigh the downside. Now when you truly air down (to like 20psi + / -) in the sand, deep snow, etc.. The E rated tire will be much more resillient to damage and failure than a P or even C load rated tire based on better heat disappation.

Plus, when you do end up towing you'll have a significant range of PSI options to provide not only load capacity but also comfort while towing....

I could see the debate if the E tires were way heavier than the Cs, but they're not. So, I'd opt for capacity and sidewall durability over a tiny bit (if any) comfort.

 

I run 287/70's and love them. Not to bad of a hit on mileage, great handling and grip on and off road, and they are wearing like Iron.

 

For some inspiration, here’s the wildpeaks on in 285/85/18

 

Sounds like great benefits overall. Thank you!

 

That's another factor I forgot to mention above, mileage of the 70 vs 75, knowing they'll both be worse than the OEM tire! Assuming negligible difference.

 

@COTundra23 I'm not seeing 285/85 listed as an optional size for AT3 or AT4?
That does look the part though!

 

I'm assuming you meant 285/75/18 correct?

 

I just installed the Falken A/T4W on my 2021 TRD Pro in the 285/75/18 and can tell you that you will need to do some work with rubbing. You need a compentent alignment shop (this is code for not the dealer or a chain tire store). Find a shop that specializes in alignments. Ditch the spacers. I needed an alignement, front bumper spacers, and some liner manipulation.

If you want problem free install, go with the 285/70/18. These new A/T4W's are all large when compared with other brands in the same size.

You might get away with the spacers if you run the smaller size.

I'm on stock TRD Pro Fox Suspension and OEM Pro Wheels/no spacers.

I'm happy with the ride quality, but will also say these are noticeably heavy tires and you will feel a difference in acceleration.

I don't regret gettinf these tires, but if i could do it over again, I would have gone with another brand to stay in the bigger tire just because I would have had less hassles with rubbing.

 

It has been discussed that 295/70/18 is by far the best tires size for Pros without any modifications.

I have run 285/75/18 , 35x12.5x18 and 35x12.5x17 on my Pro and every single one requires trimming, BMC, wheel spacers, or some sort of Westscott or Coachbuilder shim lift.

I ran Falken and Ridge Grapplers in 285/75 and both rubbed like a MF'r. Lots of trimming even with a competent alignment shop

 

Agreed. I knew I was taking a chance. Im not going to buy another set of tires now

 

So now ya'll got me thinking 285/70 or 295/70...need to compare prices on those. I'm pretty locked in on Falken WP most likely the AT4 so that decision has been made. Looks like they have both sized available too! Thank you all for your feedback so far.

 

i ran 285/70/18's in the past with zero issues. I know those will be fine. Just remove the front spat flaps and good to go.

295/70/18 is typically also a good fit, just wider and typically a little heavier.